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Jamie Darkstar
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Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« on: 15.10.2012 at 11:28 [UT+1] »
 
I'm thinking about a blog post titled "Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Presidential Election". If you have made a definite prediction or know of any, could you leave the quote and link please? If I promote it well enough it should generate some good traffic to the links.
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #1 - on: 15.10.2012 at 17:25 [UT+1] »
 
Apart from me, you and Gene I don't know of any astrologers who have clearly stated a win for Romney although recently Marjorie Orr - a british astrologer - has tentatively shown a slight preference..I have backed Romney all along not just for the US Presidency but for his nomination , even when the vast majority here were proclaiming him as a disaster without a chance of even being nominated as the Democrat candidate!
 
from Marjorie Orr..
 
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Next USA Presidency - a minefield ahead From: Marjorie. (07 Sep 2012 09:32): On the birth times available Mitt Romney looks as if he has a lot more going for him astrologically speaking at the Election and Inauguration. He has a lucky tr Pluto trine Jupiter/Uranus in November and useful aspects to his MC. Ann Romney similarly looks well supported by Jupiter whereas Barack and Michelle Obama are singularly lacking uplift.

Whoever wins will do so on a Mercury retrograde election of which there have been two in the recent past. One was the 2000 GWB/Gore disaster and previously in 1980 when Reagan won a convincing majority to bury Jimmy Carter. So would seem to favour the GOP tho' a sample of two is hardly evidence.

The Inauguration will either be Sunday 20th or Monday 21st January 2013. Whichever it is, it'll be a more dangerous Presidency than Barack Obama's first term. The Obama Inauguration chart hinted at dreams too grand to be realised but not much in the way of disasters. Whereas the up and coming 2013 Inauguration chart looks risky, with high aggravation and acute frustration with the Sun = Mars/Pluto = Uranus/North Node and (if at noon) MC = Saturn/Pluto = Mars/Uranus. So sudden shocking changes wouldn't be a surprise.

If Mitt Romney does get in he's certainly walking into a danger zone on his personal chart - however it plays out whether politically, economically or literally - with his Solar Arc Mars already stressed by having tr Pluto trine from the Inauguration onwards, is also squaring his natal Pluto, exact by this time next year but in effect in the months before as well. And that is dead halt time. Ann Romney also looks seriously jangled next year.

If Barack Obama gets in again then he has his Solar Arc Mars in the car-collision square to his Sun exact next February but in effect in the months before and after that.

Depending on when the Inauguration kicks off (normally noon-ish) there could be health/employment issues with Saturn in Scorpio in the 6th. But no matter the time tr Uranus will move to square the Inauguration Pluto from late April, thro' May 2013 and returning late Sept into October 2013 and Feb/March 2014 which will certainly rock the Presidency on its axis.

 
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #2 - on: 15.10.2012 at 19:48 [UT+1] »
 
Ed Tamplin appears to be agreeing with the idea of a Romney win (depending upon accuracy of time of birth from available data):
 
http://www.edtamplin.com/weekly%20horoscopes.htm
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #3 - on: 15.10.2012 at 20:21 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from etherea on 15.10.2012 at 19:48 [UT+1]:
Ed Tamplin appears to be agreeing with the idea of a Romney win (depending upon accuracy of time of birth from available data):

http://www.edtamplin.com/weekly%20horoscopes.htm

 
Yes, i was chatting with Ed earlier about this. Interesting that 3 Aussies have predicted Romney: Ed, Douglas Parker and myself.
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #4 - on: 15.10.2012 at 20:29 [UT+1] »
 
Hi Greg, do you have a link to Marjorie's article?
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« Reply #5 - on: 15.10.2012 at 20:54 [UT+1] »
 
I also predicted Romney a bit back, based on Isaac Starkman's rectification of his chart, and primary directed Ne on the IC.
 
- Ed
 
I win either way: a right prediction or the candidate I prefer.
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #6 - on: 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1] »
 
Hello all
 
As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win.  There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead.  I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well
 
Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
 to his side.
 
Gene
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/
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« Reply #7 - on: 15.10.2012 at 21:35 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Gene Ray on 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1]:
Hello all

As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win. There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead. I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well

Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
to his side.

Gene

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/

 
Well, I did say it was Neptune that is angular in the matter.
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« Reply #8 - on: 15.10.2012 at 21:50 [UT+1] »
 
Hello Ed
 
The polls are called a "snapshot" and Neptune does govern these matters, film, pictures etc.
 
I just got back from a walk and I was think the Moon as governing the population might well be involved.
We know that Mercury and the Moon are the fastest moving sign rulers and the polls do change so much.
I had not really ever thought about this before.
 
Is it MercuryMoon, MercuryNeptune, MoonNeptune or all three?
 
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« Reply #9 - on: 15.10.2012 at 21:57 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Ed Falis on 15.10.2012 at 21:35 [UT+1]:
Quote from Gene Ray on 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1]:
Hello all

As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win. There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead. I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well

Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
to his side.

Gene

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/


Well, I did say it was Neptune that is angular in the matter.

 
 
You may be celebrating your astrological prediction afterall Ed, for TR Neptune 0Pisces rx will be opposition the President's
natal Lunar NodeUranus (relocated to DC 3rd house), and of course they natally, conjunct Regulus.  The fated fall?
I hope not....but I am a dreamer & Idealist  too. Wink
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Re: Astrologers Predictions for the 2012 Election
« Reply #10 - on: 15.10.2012 at 23:11 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Deborah on 15.10.2012 at 21:57 [UT+1]:
Quote from Ed Falis on 15.10.2012 at 21:35 [UT+1]:
Quote from Gene Ray on 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1]:
Hello all

As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win. There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead. I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well

Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
to his side.

Gene

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/


Well, I did say it was Neptune that is angular in the matter.



You may be celebrating your astrological prediction afterall Ed, for TR Neptune 0Pisces rx will be opposition the President's
natal Lunar NodeUranus (relocated to DC 3rd house), and of course they natally, conjunct Regulus. The fated fall?
I hope not....but I am a dreamer & Idealist too. Wink

 
 
Hello Deb and all
 
Lets not change our Astrological predictions just because what had been polls favoring Obama now seem to go Romney's way.  All those many many Astrological positons, aspects and a few stars here and there which you said showed an Obama win have not changed...have they?
 
Besides Polls are as changable as Neptune is illusory and so changable is Mercury.
 
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« Reply #11 - on: 15.10.2012 at 23:17 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Ed Falis on 15.10.2012 at 21:35 [UT+1]:
Quote from Gene Ray on 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1]:
Hello all

As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win. There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead. I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well

Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
to his side.

Gene

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/


Well, I did say it was Neptune that is angular in the matter.

Ed, why would you say that Neptune angular signals a victory? I'd say Neptune is a "loser" indication...just curious
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« Reply #12 - on: 15.10.2012 at 23:31 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Celine on 15.10.2012 at 23:17 [UT+1]:
Quote from Ed Falis on 15.10.2012 at 21:35 [UT+1]:
Quote from Gene Ray on 15.10.2012 at 21:28 [UT+1]:
Hello all

As Greg said I have predicted Romney to win. There are so many polls out there some with Obama ahead and some with Romney ahead. I suppose Mercury (communication) and perhaps Uranus (groups) or Neptune (masses) would tie in as well

Here is a USA today and Gallup poll favoring Romney and women are moving
to his side.

Gene

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-v oters-romney-obama/1634791/


Well, I did say it was Neptune that is angular in the matter.

Ed, why would you say that Neptune angular signals a victory? I'd say Neptune is a "loser" indication...just curious

 
Of the candidates, Romney's directions for this period are more angular and more connected to central configurations in his natal (again, if we use Starkman's rectification).  He has a natal IC=Sa=Ur/Ne, and this direction smacks right into it by conjoining Sa and IC.  This kind of configuration generally shows things happening.  That we might find the planets involved distasteful is the price we pay for "tools of the universe", like Romney and GWB.
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« Reply #13 - on: 15.10.2012 at 23:37 [UT+1] »
 
Dear Gene Ray: Let's not "assume" anything here when it comes to me.
 
I haven't changed my opinion yet, it's going to be Obama, but i'm very concerned about the Rx Mercury , the underhandedness and the Neptune  transit which as I said, opposes his 3rd house (relocated to DC) natal postions aligned with Regulus., as there is always a fall with this natal position from what I see.  
 
But my life will go on either way, if I'm right or wrong, it doesn't make a hill of beans  of true difference to me. As I have my own path in life and it's not connected to either candidate .  Smiley        I've said this all before on the other thread.
 
In my work I watch Regulus  carefully in the charts both in natals and in Transits . So for me, it's my caveat otherwise, I'd think it's Obama who will pull it off, yet Regulus downsizing, always concerns me regardless.
Neptune 0Pisces opposes Regulus and this is a major concern I'd have as a caveat or vicissitude in life as they say.  
I don't see astrology as a science as some do.
 
Cherrio!
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vicissitude
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« Reply #14 - on: 16.10.2012 at 05:11 [UT+1] »
 
Hi Jamie... I've given my prediction 3 times for Obama on this forum, should you like to add it to the forum count ...
 
1.  http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1347644209/20  post #28
 
2. Genes thread.... Oct. 11, 2012... (in quotes below)
 
"Personally... I think it will ultimately be Obama who wins the election... but, in my mind, most probably only after the 'Romney camp' contests the Obama win due to a very tight margin. The Romney camp disputing the results may hold up the final 'pronouncement' of the presidential winner by a week or more... but... for me, the final deciding factor is Venus...  
 
Among many other things astrologically for both Obama and Romney... at the end of the day... Venus throws her weight to Saturn... (the reigning 'King' Obama) and not to Jupiter (the hopeful Crown Prince, in waiting... Romney). I think Obama will get his next 4 years without a VOC Moon to so completely thwart his efforts. Who knows... maybe the VOC Moon that relentlessly plagued him... gave Obama what he needed... time to learn to how to be a President... its a cinch he came to office greener than the greenest greenhorn on the earth into his job.   Cran"
 
 
3.  Again on Gene's thread... the post you and I briefly discussed, (quote below)
 
"Personally, I think, its Romney who 'fails'...  
 
Leo is a fixed sign.  Pisces is a mutable sign.    
 
To me, Leo continues to 'shine' and (Obama) remains. Pisces (Romney) retreats into the 'background' of 12th house 'invisibility'.  
 
In my view... there is agreement to the above... within the November 6, 2012 Election Day 'Sky Map' that appears over Wahington D.C. ... which shows,  
 
The Sun (President Obama) and Saturn (the King maker) and Venus (the benevolent bestower of the graces awarded to the 'King' via protocol and ceremonies) all in alignment, supporting each other.  Jupiter, representative of Romney, the challenger, is no where to be seen in the sky map, at the close of election day."    
 
 
BTW...  great idea to keep a tally.   Cran
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« Reply #15 - on: 16.10.2012 at 05:28 [UT+1] »
 
This is from Bernadette Brady's Visual Astrology Newsletter for January 2012. It will be interesting to see if she's right.
 
 "It seems clear, at least in terms of heavenly patterns, that the outcome of these four-yearly battles lies in whether Venus bestows her favours on the rival or the king. . . Venus as Morning Star favours the one who holds the crown...
Thus Venus indicates Obama's return to the White House. . ."
 
The newsletter is freely available online at www.zyntara.com and the issue mentioned is here:  
http://www.zyntara.com/VisualAstrologyNewsletters/van_Jan2012/van_jan2012.html
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« Reply #16 - on: 16.10.2012 at 09:29 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Cranberry on 16.10.2012 at 05:11 [UT+1]:


Hi Jamie... I've given my prediction 3 times for Obama on this forum, should you like to add it to the forum count ...


 
Done!
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« Reply #17 - on: 16.10.2012 at 11:36 [UT+1] »
 
1. Obama will not be re-elected - based on Uranus in 10th in his SR chart
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1337704335/42#42
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1337704335/43#43
 
2. Obama's image doesn't resemble the picture of the election's night skye  
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1337704335/37#37
 
3. Romney beats Obama in a debate, based on Romney's Saturn on Obama's Mercury
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1339622557/0
 
I think that was it...
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« Reply #18 - on: 16.10.2012 at 12:09 [UT+1] »
 
Quote from Jamie Darkstar on 15.10.2012 at 20:29 [UT+1]:
Hi Greg, do you have a link to Marjorie's article?

 
http://www.astroinform.com/index2f.asp?page=forum_article.asp?id=1
 
A coded endorsement for Obama from Sunsign columnist Jonathan Cainer?
 
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I keep being asked if I am going to predict the outcome of the US presidential election. I keep replying that if I do, I will upset all those who want the other guy to win. They won't interpret my words as an objective, professional analysis of astrological influences. Even when events prove me right, they'll be livid with me for appearing to support their enemy. So either I must give a coded answer or put it in a sealed envelope and give it to Big Bird for safekeeping. Hmmm. I know that, four years from now, he'll still be here!

 
http://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/soul+happiness/horoscopes
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« Reply #19 - on: 16.10.2012 at 16:41 [UT+1] »
 
Hello Greg and all
 
I can only describe Marjorie Orrs reasons as to why she will not pick a winner as ridiculous.  I strongly supspect that it is the risk of being wrong that causes her to demure.  She says that even when she is proven right people will not like it.  B.S. It is easy for her to claim she would be right if she picked the winner but she will not pick the winner.  Seems to me she is unwilling to publicly test her abilities.
I also suspect that after the election no matter who wins she will say she knew who the winner was but because of her given reasons she did not predict publicly.  I hope people will not let her get away with that.
 
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