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Angelica

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my chart and my marriage without sex
« on: 21.09.2009 at 23:13 [UT] »

Hello all,

I am really into astrology, and I would love to hear your oppinion about my chart. I'll tell you a little about my life, as well as about my relationship with my husband... Please, I would love to hear your oppinion.

I was rased by my parents and grandparents. Actually, my father was always travelling and he wasnt a responsible person at all, and that way my mother had to rely on her parents to help her rasing me and my sister (I have a sister one year older than me, with whom I get along really well). Despite not acting like a real father, I always had a great relationship with my dad (he was mostly absent, but when he was around he would be really fun). My relationship with my mother (real fun, artistic person) and grandmother (probably the sweetest and most caring person I've ever known) was always great. My grandfather was a really responsible, strict man, protective, but as he was sometimes aggressive with his words I felt intimidated by him.

As a kid I was extremly shy and scared. I was happy at home, but was scared of my teachers and wasnt very sociable in school and my grades were average. My sister was the most brilliant kid I've known, and of course that's what everybody talked about in the family.

As a teenager, I wasnt able to talk to boys, i was too shy. I wasnt the kind to fall in love either. I had a good group of friends though and I was confortable around them (of course all girls). I started to care more about my grades in school and became a pretty good student.

I went to university to study statistics, were I met lots of boys and lost my fear of talking to them. I dated a couple of boys but nothing too serious. The boys who really interested me (which weren't many), i never really wanted to approach. I usually felt ugly and fat (I have always been a little overweight).

I graduated and proceeded with my studies, doing a master degree and Phd after, all in the same university and in the same subject (statistics). My biggest problem was to talk in front of an audience. I got jobs as a treinee and I used to enjoy working hard. My grandmother died when I was 24 (I was doing my phd at this point). I got addicted to the internet pretty badly at this time (I dont know if that's related to her death or if it's just a lame excuse Roll Eyes

). I had a treinee job at this point and I lost it because I wasnt working enough (which was very embarrassing). I also got a job giving classes in an university and they fired me because I was horrible... I met a guy on the internet and I fell in love. I am brazilian, lived in Brazil, and he was wesh, living in wales.

Well, after that I went to study in the UK for a year as part of my phd program. I got to known this guy better and when I returned to Brazil I finished my phd and got a job in the same university I studied my whole life. I was getting less shy and learned to face audiences and give classes. I couldnt want a better job. After a year I got married and my husband moved to Brazil, giving up his job.

We got our house and I support him, he has no intention to get a job (it would be very hard anyway). He doesnt really care about learning portuguese, what pisses me off sometimes. Besides that, he can be pretty moody and childish, sometimes getting really aggressive for no reason (but not fisically violent). I am extremly calm and easy, and he is the only person I know that manages to get me mad. There is nothing I hate more than getting mad, when I do I lose my mind.

The weirdest part is that we dont have sex. We never had after we got married (about 4 years ago). First I resented his lack of interest but now I dont care, because I dont enjoy sex anyway. He was the first man I had sex with, and I never enjoyed.

I also used to resent his lack of compliments and demonstrations of love. Nowadays I dont care anymore. I enjoy his company, he’s a good friend and we enjoy the same activities (traveling, for example).

Sometimes, however, I miss flerting with a man. I was unfaithfull, and I went out with a student of mine a couple of times because I felt flattered that he thought I was attractive. I had sex with him, and I didnt enjoy it. I didnt feel guilty either... I simply enjoyed the fact that he wanted to kiss me and touch me...

I feel very happy in my life, but thiking about it, my retationship is not normal... Please, help me with that. I’m posting my chart and my husband`s.

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Angelica Member Posts: 41	Re: my chart and my marriage without sex « Reply #1 - on: 21.09.2009 at 23:18 [UT] » my chart
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« Reply #2 - on: 22.09.2009 at 05:15 [UT] »

I find it interesting-he has Saturn in the 8th house which can show an issue with intimacy/deep sexuality blocks. You have Uranus in the 8th house which can show a radical unusual attitude to sex-even aversion or disgust. Uranus can go anyway and usually sideways -certainly not common or usual. Esp that you have a strong tension around this 8th house and so does he. Do you think your adverse to sex/not enjoying it threatens his insecurities with sex? Did you refuse him in the beginning?

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Gracie

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« Reply #3 - on: 22.09.2009 at 06:14 [UT] »

This is a lot more than just a problem with your marriage and you know it.
The lack of sex in the marriage is but a symptom of something that goes way
deeper. Way back in your memory.
You keep the marriage because you are afraid of the nature of what might emerge sexually if you find yourself free. Off the chain.

The contents of your birth chart precludes me from taking it up in a Forum.
My advice is that you seek the best therapist you can find.

I can say however that you are equipped to live a successful life, given the grand trine between Venus, Saturn and the Moon. Plus, the trine of Pluto and Mars.

Here's "Angelica" with transits and more aspects if anyone else ...

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Angelica

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« Reply #4 - on: 22.09.2009 at 13:00 [UT] »

Quote from _Inanna_ on 22.09.2009 at 05:15 [UT]:

I find it interesting-he has Saturn in the 8th house which can show an issue with intimacy/deep sexuality blocks. You have Uranus in the 8th house which can show a radical unusual attitude to sex-even aversion or disgust. Uranus can go anyway and usually sideways -certainly not common or usual. Esp that you have a strong tension around this 8th house and so does he. Do you think your adverse to sex/not enjoying it threatens his insecurities with sex? Did you refuse him in the beginning?

Thanks for sharing your interesting view. I dont know the answer to your first question, but I dont think so. I never refused him, except from in our first date (and he confessed he was relieved by my attitude). Even though I never enjoyed the act much, I enjoyed to be with him hugging and kissing.

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Angelica

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« Reply #5 - on: 22.09.2009 at 13:07 [UT] »

Quote from Gracie on 22.09.2009 at 06:14 [UT]:

This is a lot more than just a problem with your marriage and you know it.
The lack of sex in the marriage is but a symptom of something that goes way
deeper. Way back in your memory.
You keep the marriage because you are afraid of the nature of what might emerge sexually if you find yourself free. Off the chain.

The contents of your birth chart precludes me from taking it up in a Forum.
My advice is that you seek the best therapist you can find.

I can say however that you are equipped to live a successful life, given the grand trine between Venus, Saturn and the Moon. Plus, the trine of Pluto and Mars.

Thank you for you reply, Gracie. But to e honest with you, I dont think I would be afraid of finding myself free. Of course I could be wrong, but as I said I even enjoy flerting with other guys and I had sex with other guy. I keep my marriage because I don't care for sex, so I'm happy the way it is... I mean, what is marriage if not an association of interests? My interest in this case is to have his company, as we enjoy being together. If I ever think about breaking up with him is because of his moody/aggressive moments...

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rookish Member Posts: 1511	Re: my chart and my marriage without sex « Reply #6 - on: 22.09.2009 at 14:00 [UT] » What do you think he wants or expects from this marriage? He moved a long way to be with you, especially as he does not speak the language. What does he do with his time if he is not working? Do you have any long term goals in your long term future together? Does he really want to go home?
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Chester Field

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Re: my chart and my marriage without sex
« Reply #7 - on: 22.09.2009 at 14:49 [UT] »

There is no set rule which says that a married relationship has to be about passion and sex. Companionship without sex is just as valid and if the alternative is loneliness then it seems a reasonable bargain.

Your letter has the tone, however, of a realisation that there is something more to life than the experience you are currently having. You are intelligent, write about your life candidly, but you sound as if you feel very 'put upon' and exploited, despite the professions of happiness. Your relationship sounds like that between a pet and its owner!

I really need to erect both charts myself, but the yod to Mars in his chart looks significant as regards sex-drive, and your Grand Trine with a kite plus Venus/Pluto opposition looks highly indicative.

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Chester Field

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« Reply #8 - on: 22.09.2009 at 15:41 [UT] »

OK, HER chart.

The life description has some consistent patterns. The family dominated by females - the mother, the grandmother. It looks like the mother chose the father because of his financial situation and to give her a more secure position in the world ( 9th cusp Sag, Moon conjunct MC, but although the child was planned ( Sun and Moon above the horizon ) the actual act itself was dominated, if that is the word, by a lack of volition on the mother's part. She had little real involvement in the process ( Neptune conjunct 9th cusp ). When Mum discovered she was pregnant ( and the grandmother may have sensed it even before she did ) Moon close to the MC inconjunct Saturn, she felt rather more involved in a process ( Cap MC)rather than deeply bonding with the child within her. Its like her emotions were anaesthetised. Dad is represented by Sun in social, freedom loving 11th house. Interestingly Sun is sextile and trine an opposition between Chiron/Node - so there is a lack of real contact with his family and this causes emotional wounding.

I notice the absence of water in this chart. Uranus is the only planet in water, suggesting a strange detachment from emotional issues. It is inconjunct Venus - the feminine principle - from the 8th cusp - deep issues. This pales into insignificance when we look at the Venus/Pluto opposition, angular and at the centre of a kite formation. The feminity is under attack from the moment of birth, and the tensions are to the Moon ( Mother ). Did she want a boy? Did she feel that she had already 'performed' by producing your sister - the beautiful, successful sister? Being told that from the start suggests that a preference was expressed and the younger sister made to feel of less worth. Why was that? You achieved a level of success denied to many, through your own efforts, but where were you given or taught the confidence, as a woman and as a doctor of statistics?

Aries ascendant: strong! decisive! forthright! Not quite. Venus conjuncts the Aries ascendant ( who WAS that intense woman present at the birth moment and what did she take away from the mother? ) Mars is conjunct Mercury in detached Aquarius and all its energy and vitality is removed by the position of Saturn on the 5th cusp. The t-square to Node/Chiron forms a perfect blockage to the development of the personality and self-confidence.

I'm sorry, but you SAY that everything is fine, that you are happy with the hugs and kisses, and you don't really mind the lack of passion in your whole life, but I simply don't believe it. The kite is ISSUES, writ large. The death of your grandmother coincided with the registration of Pluto in your chart. Next to register ( NOW) is the Node/Chiron opposition and the trine to Sun from the node point, and that suggests an awakening of what you really wish for and want to achieve with your life - Sun IS in the 11th house of Hopes and Wishes after all. The break may come in your 40th year with the inconjunct Uranus/Venus point - maybe then you can break free. From what? From what is signified by that Grand Trine. The terrible inertia - a talented, vivacious woman who cannot break free from a Grand Trine which takes the line of least resistance - the incredible energies just wind along the trine lines and never amount to anything in terms of what you really want from life and your relationships. You even chose your husband through the proxy of an internet connection!

Do you know what this chart is? It is a chrysalis that never makes it to being a butterfly. It is that sad.

That really will take immense strength of will and the ability to act. Life IS scary, but where is the FUN in yours? When did you last take a risk, just for you?

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« Reply #9 - on: 22.09.2009 at 15:54 [UT] »

Would you care if he was unfaithful? It would be rare for a man to not have any real desires, and from my experience, if he's not getting it from you then he is from someone else. Sad

But, some people actually don't seem to care, and if that's true of you then so be it. But I do agree with Chester "Your relationship sounds like that of a pet and it's owner". What does he do with all his free time? That in itself would make me moody, and to be supported by another, it would infuriate me.

He has his Saturn

, he has difficulty expressing his emotions. Moon

apex of a yod. But what stands out is his Pluto

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/

. And you have Pluto

on the ASC/DSC. Both these show some strong relationship problems.

Could you post the synastry?

PS- GREAT interpretations Chester!

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Chester Field

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« Reply #10 - on: 22.09.2009 at 16:16 [UT] »

HIS chart.

WALES! Land of My Fathers - the green, green valleys, and the hills resounding with the sound of male voice choirs singing late into the night as the smoke rises from the chimneys. That Home of Homes. Rugby, Church, Mines, Sheep. Ah the solid ties that a true Welshman from Cardiff should feel to his homeland! The Welsh are patriots and home-lovers to a man.

Node is 'the interaction of the individual with the group'. Guess what? In HIS chart it is unaspected in disassociated Pisces. It is just not 'there' for him. Wherever he lays his hat, that's his home. So where does he direct his energies? Virgo ascendant is criticising and picky, and with Pluto close there is no hesitation in upping sticks and moving as far away as possible...say... Brazil. Uranus is also in the first house in the sign of marriage and both oppose Chiron - emotional/psychological wounds which he carries along with him wherever he is - and Chiron is in the seventh of marriage. Pluto/Uranus/Chiron are all square Sun in the house of home and Venus in the sign of Sag - the attraction of a foreign wife and setting up home abroad.

What is the nature of the wounds? Mars at the point of a YOD with Moon and Uranus. What is that about? Pisces tends to dissolve and dissipate. Uranus is another dissolver - of societies expectations. Mum expects her son to be a typical Welshman, and he just cannot portray or fulfil that expectation. Just as SHE had the feminine side of subservience pushed on her, he had the macho stuff pushed on HIM, and he chose to rebel and get away. The foreign land, the Brazilian wife, the new home - except that none of it actually worked. The tensions and negativity were still there. Look at the t-squares; the inconjuncts, the issues with his masculinity, the planets in hidden houses, the 8th and especially the 4th. He just took the hang-ups with him, and found someone who would happily play victim to all his insecurities.

He actually has a lot of talents, this guy. The energy of the t-squares COULD be harnessed for him to actually do something with his life. He just needs the proverbial stick of dynamite down his trousers to get him moving ( let's face it, nothing down there works that well, unless he is fooling someone with his platonic marriage relationship ). You never know. In a year or so the Uranus half-return might click in, and HE might find the energy to do a Plutonic transformation.

How did these two find each other? Ah, yes, The Internet. You sit in a room and develop all your relationships and solve all your problems through a keyboard and screen.

Time to get away from mine.

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Gracie

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« Reply #11 - on: 22.09.2009 at 17:18 [UT] »

[ But to e honest with you, I dont think I would be afraid of finding myself free. Of course I could be wrong]

"Angelica"

This probing of yours on this Forum is an indication of your migration
towards the light at the end of the tunnel.

Because you are very clever with words, you will defend and deflect
and then reach out a little bit(see your own words above?) .

I wish you the greatest luck in finding an excellent therapist that can
plow through your resistances. It might be tremendously liberating.

We also have here the makings of a thread headed for the long haul.

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Angelica

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« Reply #12 - on: 22.09.2009 at 19:43 [UT] »

Quote from rookish on 22.09.2009 at 14:00 [UT]:

What do you think he wants or expects from this marriage? He moved a long way to be with you, especially as he does not speak the language.
What does he do with his time if he is not working? Do you have any long term goals in your long term future together?
Does he really want to go home?

I think he is happier here in Brazil and with me than he was back in his country, and that's enough for him to want to stay with me. He lived with his mom before and didnt get along with her very well, he had a good paid job but he hated it. Now he doesnt work, and I think he is confortable with this situation, more confortable than I wish he was. I realised I was worring more about him getting a job and doing something of his life than himself, so I stopped thinking about that. He watches a lot of TV, cooks, go to the gym... I dont work long hours, so we have a lot of time together and travel every time we can.

Before I used to think that he was using me and he was with me just because it was a confortable situation for him, and that he didnt love me.... Now I realise I cannot judge people like this. I cannot know how he feels and I think that's his problem. I have feelings for him and enjoy being with him. I'm ok with it.

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Angelica

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« Reply #13 - on: 22.09.2009 at 19:47 [UT] »

Quote from Chester Field on 22.09.2009 at 14:49 [UT]:

There is no set rule which says that a married relationship has to be about passion and sex. Companionship without sex is just as valid and if the alternative is loneliness then it seems a reasonable bargain.

Your letter has the tone, however, of a realisation that there is something more to life than the experience you are currently having. You are intelligent, write about your life candidly, but you sound as if you feel very 'put upon' and exploited, despite the professions of happiness. Your relationship sounds like that between a pet and its owner!

I really need to erect both charts myself, but the yod to Mars in his chart looks significant as regards sex-drive, and your Grand Trine with a kite plus Venus/Pluto opposition looks highly indicative.

Thank you very much for your extensive reply!!
I think you are right that I feel exploited at times, and our relationship is sometimes like a pet and his owner.

Can you explain to me better what does the yod in his chart means and the kite in mine (highly indicative of what)?

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Angelica

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« Reply #14 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:00 [UT] »

Quote from Chester Field on 22.09.2009 at 15:41 [UT]:

OK, HER chart.

The life description has some consistent patterns. The family dominated by females - the mother, the grandmother. It looks like the mother chose the father because of his financial situation and to give her a more secure position in the world ( 9th cusp Sag, Moon conjunct MC, but although the child was planned ( Sun and Moon above the horizon ) the actual act itself was dominated, if that is the word, by a lack of volition on the mother's part. She had little real involvement in the process ( Neptune conjunct 9th cusp ). When Mum discovered she was pregnant ( and the grandmother may have sensed it even before she did ) Moon close to the MC inconjunct Saturn, she felt rather more involved in a process ( Cap MC)rather than deeply bonding with the child within her. Its like her emotions were anaesthetised. Dad is represented by Sun in social, freedom loving 11th house. Interestingly Sun is sextile and trine an opposition between Chiron/Node - so there is a lack of real contact with his family and this causes emotional wounding.

I notice the absence of water in this chart. Uranus is the only planet in water, suggesting a strange detachment from emotional issues. It is inconjunct Venus - the feminine principle - from the 8th cusp - deep issues. This pales into insignificance when we look at the Venus/Pluto opposition, angular and at the centre of a kite formation. The feminity is under attack from the moment of birth, and the tensions are to the Moon ( Mother ). Did she want a boy? Did she feel that she had already 'performed' by producing your sister - the beautiful, successful sister? Being told that from the start suggests that a preference was expressed and the younger sister made to feel of less worth. Why was that? You achieved a level of success denied to many, through your own efforts, but where were you given or taught the confidence, as a woman and as a doctor of statistics?

I just wanted to comment on that part, giving you a little more information. My mom told me that she actually cried when she found out she was pregnant because my sister was so young and she was so tired to think about another baby... She said the doctor told her it was very difficult for her to get pregnant and that's why they weren't carefull.

I never felt however that my mother had preference for my sister at all. She was the smart one, that's true, but that didnt seem to impress my mother a lot (my grandparents seemed to care more about it). My mother and I always had a great relationship, she was loving and fun (maybe acted sometimes more like an older sister - with my grandmother being the mother). She died last year (20-august-08) from brain cancer. I wonder if that could be seen in my chart.

My father was never very present even when my mother was pregnant, so it's true about his lack of contact with the family.

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Angelica

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« Reply #15 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:10 [UT] »

Quote from Chester Field on 22.09.2009 at 15:41 [UT]:

I'm sorry, but you SAY that everything is fine, that you are happy with the hugs and kisses, and you don't really mind the lack of passion in your whole life, but I simply don't believe it. The kite is ISSUES, writ large. The death of your grandmother coincided with the registration of Pluto in your chart. Next to register ( NOW) is the Node/Chiron opposition and the trine to Sun from the node point, and that suggests an awakening of what you really wish for and want to achieve with your life - Sun IS in the 11th house of Hopes and Wishes after all. The break may come in your 40th year with the inconjunct Uranus/Venus point - maybe then you can break free. From what? From what is signified by that Grand Trine. The terrible inertia - a talented, vivacious woman who cannot break free from a Grand Trine which takes the line of least resistance - the incredible energies just wind along the trine lines and never amount to anything in terms of what you really want from life and your relationships. You even chose your husband through the proxy of an internet connection!

Do you know what this chart is? It is a chrysalis that never makes it to being a butterfly. It is that sad.

That really will take immense strength of will and the ability to act. Life IS scary, but where is the FUN in yours? When did you last take a risk, just for you?

Am I that sad!? I really dont see myself that way... Yes, my relationship is weird, I agree. But I do have passion! Only that it doenst translate into sex... I see the way I met my husband (through the internet), like a brave attitude - I traveled alone to New York to meet him at the first time, went to live for a year in the UK to study and be near him, was brave enough to marry him, buy a place and support him. I dont think I just did what was easier for me, I did what I wanted... I do take risks.

I am not afraid of changes either. If you say I should change and maybe get divorced one day, I'm up to it. I want to live a good adventurous life and when it's time to change I accept the changes.

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« Reply #16 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:17 [UT] »

Quote from zippy on 22.09.2009 at 15:54 [UT]:

Would you care if he was unfaithful? It would be rare for a man to not have any real desires, and from my experience, if he's not getting it from you then he is from someone else. Sad

But, some people actually don't seem to care, and if that's true of you then so be it. But I do agree with Chester "Your relationship sounds like that of a pet and it's owner". What does he do with all his free time? That in itself would make me moody, and to be supported by another, it would infuriate me.

He has his Saturn

, he has difficulty expressing his emotions. Moon

apex of a yod. But what stands out is his Pluto

/

/

. And you have Pluto

on the ASC/DSC. Both these show some strong relationship problems.

Could you post the synastry?

PS- GREAT interpretations Chester!

Believe me, he doesnt have sex with anyone else... He barely lives the house without me, he doesnt even have friends of him own. I would actually feel relieved if I found out he had sexual interest by someone else (even though I'd feel jeasous...).

I agree that being supported by someone is a horrible situation. We had a serious conversation just before he moved to Brazil, when I actually told him that I would prefer if he kept his job in the UK (and we could live apart, seeing each other as much as we could). He was furious, and said he would either move to Brazil or leave me. Well, he had it his way. He doesnt seem to care about not working, doesnt try to learn portuguese... That way, when he is bored, I feel he should do something about it but it's not up to me to tell him what to do.

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« Reply #17 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:27 [UT] »

Quote from Chester Field on 22.09.2009 at 16:16 [UT]:

HIS chart.

WALES! Land of My Fathers - the green, green valleys, and the hills resounding with the sound of male voice choirs singing late into the night as the smoke rises from the chimneys. That Home of Homes. Rugby, Church, Mines, Sheep. Ah the solid ties that a true Welshman from Cardiff should feel to his homeland! The Welsh are patriots and home-lovers to a man.

Node is 'the interaction of the individual with the group'. Guess what? In HIS chart it is unaspected in disassociated Pisces. It is just not 'there' for him. Wherever he lays his hat, that's his home. So where does he direct his energies? Virgo ascendant is criticising and picky, and with Pluto close there is no hesitation in upping sticks and moving as far away as possible...say... Brazil. Uranus is also in the first house in the sign of marriage and both oppose Chiron - emotional/psychological wounds which he carries along with him wherever he is - and Chiron is in the seventh of marriage. Pluto/Uranus/Chiron are all square Sun in the house of home and Venus in the sign of Sag - the attraction of a foreign wife and setting up home abroad.

What is the nature of the wounds? Mars at the point of a YOD with Moon and Uranus. What is that about? Pisces tends to dissolve and dissipate. Uranus is another dissolver - of societies expectations. Mum expects her son to be a typical Welshman, and he just cannot portray or fulfil that expectation. Just as SHE had the feminine side of subservience pushed on her, he had the macho stuff pushed on HIM, and he chose to rebel and get away. The foreign land, the Brazilian wife, the new home - except that none of it actually worked. The tensions and negativity were still there. Look at the t-squares; the inconjuncts, the issues with his masculinity, the planets in hidden houses, the 8th and especially the 4th. He just took the hang-ups with him, and found someone who would happily play victim to all his insecurities.

Great interpretation, I agree with everything you said there, except from the "found someone who would happily play victim to all his insecurities"... Or maybe I just dont like to be criticised... Huh

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« Reply #18 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:29 [UT] »

Quote from Chester Field on 22.09.2009 at 16:16 [UT]:

HIS chart.

He actually has a lot of talents, this guy. The energy of the t-squares COULD be harnessed for him to actually do something with his life. He just needs the proverbial stick of dynamite down his trousers to get him moving ( let's face it, nothing down there works that well, unless he is fooling someone with his platonic marriage relationship ). You never know. In a year or so the Uranus half-return might click in, and HE might find the energy to do a Plutonic transformation.

How did these two find each other? Ah, yes, The Internet. You sit in a room and develop all your relationships and solve all your problems through a keyboard and screen.

Time to get away from mine.

I hope you are right, I don't want him to have a mediocre life! I want what is best for him, as for me I'll be alright.

And, God... what do you have against the internet!!? That was only the mean I had to find this guy, we dont have a relationship through the internet anymore. We live under the same shelter...

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« Reply #19 - on: 22.09.2009 at 20:36 [UT] »

Quote from Gracie on 22.09.2009 at 17:18 [UT]:

[ But to e honest with you, I dont think I would be afraid of finding myself free. Of course I could be wrong]

"Angelica"

This probing of yours on this Forum is an indication of your migration
towards the light at the end of the tunnel.

Because you are very clever with words, you will defend and deflect
and then reach out a little bit(see your own words above?) .

I wish you the greatest luck in finding an excellent therapist that can
plow through your resistances. It might be tremendously liberating.

We also have here the makings of a thread headed for the long haul.

Gracie, I was actually just interested in astrology when I decided to post my map in the forum. I wanted to learn more about my chart. However, when I started writing about my life, I realized a lot of people would find weird the lack of sex in my marriage, and then, not to me blamed for that alone I decided to post my huband's map too...

Anyway, I would get an analist if I could because I do believe everyone should actually see one. Everybody have their problems, and I'm not different. They are very expensive though, and I just dont have the money to do it now...

Thanks for the advice anyway

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