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Astro-Databank: Space: Columbia #STS 107
« on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Space: Columbia #STS 107, born 1 February 2003 at 07:53 AM in Nacogdoches TX
 
This discussion is imported from the  comment board on the  previous astrodatabank.com website.

As the nation mourns over the loss of the Columbia crew, we astrologers are also looking at the charts. We've posted the chart of the launch and the birth dates of the crew members on AstroDatabank.com. Here are some questions to contemplate:
  • Is the tragedy in the launch chart, the disintegration chart or the chart of the first launch of Columbia? We have all three dates and times.
  • Are there some significant synastry connections among the astronauts and the launch or disintegration charts?
  • Would you have elected that launch time?
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« Reply #1 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Stephanie Clement
 
I found ample evidence of the kind of stresses that led to the Columbia shuttle accident - in the U.S. chart. I am using the 5:10 p.m. time proposed by Rob Hand in Civilization Under Attack.
As the planets move by solar arc, they retain their original relationships to each other, and move into new relationships to the birth chart. On March 4, 2003, all the planets in the U.S. chart will have moved 225 degrees from the positions they held on July 4, 1776. This is a very significant relationship for several reasons:
· Our lifetimes are too short to ever experience this aspect by solar arc, but nations exist for much longer. Still, this is only the second time this aspect has occurred for the U.S. The earlier aspect occurred about 135 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. People only experience the 135 or 225 degree aspect on a "one at a time" basis. The U.S. is now experiencing it "times ten" or more. This is because the Sun, Moon, planets, Ascendant and Midheaven all make the same aspect to their original positions at the same time! · The nature of the sesqui-quadrate aspect is agitation. This certainly matches the general mood of the nation right now. The President has been preparing us for war in Iraq. Anti-war demonstrations are building in force daily. The stock market is skittish. Attempts at stabilization, such as reduction in interest rates, are not having the desired salutary effect. The list is endless. · Throughout U.S. history, other "all at once" aspects have marked major internal and international events. We can see that these dates mark turning points for the nation. (Astrologer readers in other countries may want to cast birth charts for their nations, and identify dates when major solar arc aspect patterns occurred.)
U.S History of Major Solar Arc Aspect Patterns
The following table lists the years in which the U.S. chart has had the "times ten" effect. The "solar arc" column indicates the number of degrees the chart has moved for each date.
Date Solar Arc Events 1807 30 degrees Abolishment of slave trade in the British Empire; U.S. Embargo Act; Robert Fulton builds Clermont 1823 45 degrees Monroe Doctrine 1839 60 degrees ? 1869 90 degrees Transcontinental Railroad completed 1899 120 degrees Hawaii annexed; end of Spanish American War and emergence of U.S. as a major world power 1914 135 degrees Panama Canal opens 1929 150 degrees Stock Market Crash 1958 180 degrees Khrushchev visits the U.S., Fidel Castro overthrows Batista (Jan. 1, 1959); China's "Great Leap Forward" 1988 210 degrees Berlin Wall comes down (Nov. 9, 1989); U.S. invades Panama to capture Noriega; Tiananmen Square Incident (1989) 03/04/2003 225 degrees Shuttle Columbia disaster; war in Iraq?
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« Reply #2 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User F. L Weissman
 
A question, please..does anyone know the time the return trip began for the Columbia?
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« Reply #3 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User IAM
 
Earlier this week proceeding the explosion of a pharmaceutical company (Neptune) in NC (a Scorpio ruled state) I sent my buddy list an e-mail indicating that transiting Mars was approaching the point of the solar eclipse of December 4, 2002 at 11 degrees of Sagittarius. If we think back, perhaps, one might remember that barge in Alabama that hit the bridge just prior to eclipse.
I wrote to tell them to expect a world happening over the next few days as Mars neared that point. I was "hoping" it would be something that wasn't too awful. We are living in dangerous times with the cost of human life potentially growing.
I was awakened by a friend calling to tell me that the Columbia had exploded over Texas at 8AM. It is very important to take note of the degree of eclipses and watch the transits to those points. Mars is still applying to that eclipsed degree of Sagittarius. Are we in for more?
I see there has been a heightened terror alert issued today.
Additionally, later in the month we have an applying Mars transit to transiting Pluto that is opposing transiting Saturn. I'd watch the Moon for it often triggers the timing of such aspects.
I remember vividly running through Atlantic City with my pal Joe Goodavage to catch a bus back to NYC. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. We missed the first bus, the second bus was late, the third bus was delayed because of a fire somewhere in the city and that bus was the one we needed. That bus pulled away from the front of the casino as we approached from a half a block away. We had missed our ride back to NYC apparently. Just then a fistfight broke out in the street holding up that bus and WE MADE IT. During this entire event Joe kept saying: "I'm eclipsed, I'm eclipsed!" It was hilariously Fellini like. Obviously, not all eclipses provide such riotous results.  
Examine how eclipses hit your chart for some insightful prognostication.
Please pray for the crew of the Columbia and their families, world peace and the wisdom of world leaders. This is a very dangerous time in human evolution and we need to light the dimly lit recesses of humanity with the POWER OF PRAYER & LOVE.
Blessings
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« Reply #4 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Sam
 
I have a question for the Astro*Carto*Graphers out there: We all know that names are important; has anyone looked at the ACG map for the New Moon on the 1st? I'd be curious to know what lines are crossing through the nation Columbia.
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« Reply #5 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Greg Reese
 
Columbia Shuttle: Ill-fated from the On-set by Greg Reese
 Much is revealed in hindsight when reviewing the chart of the Columbia Shuttle launch January 16, 2003 10:39 am EST from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Would it behoove NASA to have a team of astrologers as assistants to the Space Program? Possibly. The Ascendant is 29 degrees of the sign and most horary astrologers consider that as a degree of misfortune. It implies - not good timing, too late, or as Ivy Jacobson describes it, "desperate" or "at the end of the rope." This late degree is in Pisces, with which there is a tendency to be victimized and an instinct to deviate from physical existence. Pisces turns away from the physical reality and longs for union with the other, for it perceives the essential qualities of life are invisible. As spiritual as the Columbia incident has become, the Ascendant fits, but for a scientific journey where every physical calculation is critical, this is not the best way to lead such a measured journey. This same undesired Ascendant is at the midpoint between the Sun and the Node. According to "Combinations of Stellar Influences" by Reinhold Ebertin, this point in space represents "termination of associations" which on the physical plane is obvious. Yet, it also refers to "the desire to make contact" or "seeking contact." Aren't our efforts of morning, memorializing and praying a kind of reaching out spiritually to contact, either these souls lost or communion with our individual deity? When we view our life it is helpful to view both worlds, physical and spiritual. When one seemingly falls short we have the other to fall upon and we always need a safe place to fall. Using the 90-degree wheel as subscribed by Ebertin, notice the Neptune/Pluto midpoint, which symbolizes a "grievous loss." Mars is semi-square to this midpoint and indicates "a state of being utilized as a medium." Serving as an obvious "medium" of shuttling man from earth to outer space and back again is only one function. There is besides the physical function, a spirit function as well. On the collective level this "medium" not only serves the spiritual union of the American community but the global community entirely. This "medium" brings us together in union to recognize our "other values" besides ambitions, conquests, capital gain and materialism. When the cold, rigid, limited calculation of science and reason falter and fail us, faith and spiritual solace compensate. Our own tears and sadness offer nurturing and comfort in quelling the loss and confusion. In these instances we are left with a void to fill through intense struggle for deeper truths. We may ask ourselves, "Is there any way to truly understand the seemingly dark omnipotent and aloof God in these moments of tragedy?" In the aftermath of the Columbia Shuttle Disaster, America is once again yielding to the weight of grief and sympathy and compassion, having to turn inward for a sense of calm and stability. Instinctively, we drop all pretenses of religious differences, political and racial differences and become one spiritual group as spiritual friends embracing our collective and personal grief. There is a great healing through the mystery of chaos. We should recognize that chaos and confusion are also a semblance of God, just as are logical thinking and Law and Order. As we weave and wrangle our way through one aspect after another in this chart it's a wonder this shuttle made it as far as it did. Plenty could have been missed, it launched during Mercury retrograde. We cannot joke about nor underestimate the severity of the lapse of methodical thinking and examination this unassuming influence may have. Although the advantage of Mercury in Capricorn implies an incorruptibly sharp observation, while retrograde, inflexibility and any slight lack in complex processes can be fatal to such a fragile and vulnerable undertaking. The technical and highly progressive nature of the Columbia mission is represented by the Sun/Uranus combination. The ominous Neptune directly at this midpoint adds "unexpected events connected with ..navigation and flying" and may indicate catastrophes in the air or with aircrafts. In isolated circumstances as noted by pioneer astrologer Ebertin, Neptune at midpoint of Sun/Uranus symbolizes "disintegration of the body." Only to compound this grave omen is the Mars/Saturn combination, which is infamously known for its "harming or destroying energy." The blazing Sun is intensifying this "tendency to get hurt" through a 45 degree angle to the midpoint and agitates the probability of death. The mounting evidence from the astrological evaluation confirms without a doubt this Shuttle Flight was ill timed.
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[continued from posting above:] by Greg Reese
The Moon squares the Mercury/Saturn midpoint that renders "the opportunity to gain abundant experience" but only adds an "inconsistency" or instability to a combination that insinuates "the state of enduring or suffering without yielding." The shuttle piercing the atmosphere at 1200 miles per hour had no way of reversing its course. This Moon also aspects the Uranus/Neptune midpoint which principles "long journeys, losses and the elimination of waking consciousness." Adding yet another clear omen, the ill-timed Ascendant previously mentioned stresses the Moon/Saturn midpoint by squaring it, which inflames "estrangement or separation" and concludes through "morning and bereavement" as researched by Ebertin. In continuing analysis, recognizing the reality of the two worlds, physical and spiritual, the Midheaven is opposite the Moon/Saturn midpoint, which renders "the feeling of being lonely and deserted." We can only imagine being so forcefully and abruptly catapulted out of the physical body into the spirit world can only leave one shocked, confused and disoriented. The astronauts of the Columbia Shuttle could possibly still be hanging in the air over earth or perhaps our prayers and wailing hearts can draw them home again. As we seek to comfort ourselves let us also seek to comfort our precious brothers and sisters that so unexpectedly lost their physical life. It certainly behooves science and technicians to evaluate the other realities besides logic and calculation. Astrology is only one of many tools to help us see the invisible realities. May God Bless.
Greg Reese is a student and teacher of astrology residing in Boulder, Colorado.
References: Simplified Horary Astrology by Ivy Jacobson Combinations of Stellar Influences by Reinhold Ebertin Astrology: Your Place in the Sun by Evangeline Adams Key Words for Astrology by Hajo Banzhaf and Anna Haebler Chart Data: Jan. 16, 2003, 10:39 am EST, Cape Canaveral, Florida. 28N24'20" 80W36'18" Geocentric, Tropical, Koch, converted to 90 degree Dial
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« Reply #7 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Dorothy J. Kovach
 
To my way of thinking, the beginning holds the ending, with all due respect, I believe we should not be looking at the break up, but instead chart of the take off. Columbia take off 16 January 2003 10:39am (5) 80w36, 28n24 ASC 29Pisces rises
William Lilly said that the ruler of the Asc and the Moon are significators of the 'shippe', and all who sail on her. With both the double bodied sign, Pisces on the cusp of the Ascendant, as well as Aries intercepted in the ascendant. This indicates the varied backgrounds of those on board, as well as the way the vehicle is put together, described by one of the NASA spokes people as a 'rocket wrapped around '2 several thousand ton bullets'.
The very last degree of Pisces, the last sign of the zodiac right on the ascendant describes indicates that it was too late the second that thing fired and that the problem began the very first moment of lift off.  
The open enemy of the ship and crew would be the ruler of the 7th house. With Mercury is the natural ruler of 'small' things. In the first few seconds of the take off a small tile is said to have fallen onto the left wing of the space craft. Notice, the tile falls from the upper left nose of the rocket, the 11'oclock position of the craft. If we look to the actual graphics of the launch chart itself, - Mercury right up there in the 11th, which is the upper left corner of the chart. Sadly, the angels could not have been more poignant in their details!  
Mercury is, Saturn's Sign, Capricorn. Saturn rules skin. The Tiles were the skin of the rocket. When you look at one of those tiles, they look like bricks, another apt Capricornian description.  
The wing, would be like hands or wings of a bird, so I see them as the 3rd house, and once again, we have Mercury ruling and the North Node situated right at the cusp of the 3rd to me is very descriptive, if we think in terms of the what comes out of a Dragon's Mouth - Fire. The fire that lit the left wing upon re-entry.  
The Moon in any chart is the activity. Notice that the Moon is moving towards an opposition from Mercury who is retrograde. Lilly said that the events caused by planets aspecting retrograde planets come as a surprise. Notice, that the Moon aspects Mercury from the 4th house of the endings. The surprise ending.  
The traditional ruler of the Pisces ASC, Jupiter, is below the horizon, while the Moon is in the house the ancients referred to as the grave. "Principle significators under the earth, ill, worst of all, if in the 4th, for that is assured testimony of sinking of the ship" -William Lilly
If this were not enough, the interception of Aries on the ASC, Mars will be the co ruler of the ASC. Sadly, Mars is heading straight for the South Node in the house of journeys, the 9th house.
Dorothy J. Kovach
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« Reply #8 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Ron Gaunt
 
The following assessment uses the Sidereal SATVA system.
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I think the clue to this disaster is the inceptional flight of Columbia on 12th April 1981 at 7:00:03am ESY +5:00 Cape Canaveral FL 28N24'20 080W36'18"
In this chart Mars the ruler is badly placed and combust the Sun both in old age in the 12th house of loss.
Also in the 12th house is functional Malefic Mercury (ruler of 6th house of accidents), debilitated and Combust. Mercury afflicts by opposition Jupiter and Saturn both badly placed in the 6th house of accidents. Mercury is also badly afflicted by a strong malefic Rahu (stationary), which also afflicts houses 4,8 and 12.
Jupiter and Saturn are afflicted by strong malefic Ketu which also afflicts houses 10,2, and 6.
The Navamsa confirms this problem chart, with mutual affliction between Mercury and the Nodes in the travel houses 3 and 9. The Nodes are debilitated and Rahu afflicts Jupiter, Sun and Mars, whilst Ketu afflicts the Asc sign Virgo, MT sign for malefic Mercury. Saturn is debilitated and badly placed in the 8th house and rules the 6th house of accidents.
The key to the chart appears to be the opposition of Malefic Mercury with Saturn. BUT MOST IMPORTANT IS A MERCURY NEPTUNE PARAN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO CAPE CANAVERAL. We will see how this plays out in the transits for the event. But first the last Solar Eclipse on 4th Dec 2002.
 SOLAR ECLIPSE.
The Solar Eclipse (SE) point is almost EXACTLY on the 8th house MEP. (point of death). Parallax Moon.
SE Asc is within 35' (zodiacal) of radical Saturn, but only 3' by Mundane Transit (MuTr)
SE Mercury is 2*05' from conjunction with radical Neptune but only 02'by MuTr. Also Mercury aspects radical Mercury by 26', and SE Saturn aspects radical Mercury 1*38' MuTr.
We thus see all the trigger planets being activated.
 COLUMBIA TAKE OFF
Columbia took off on its ill fated trip on 16th Jan 2003 at 10:39 am EST.  
Malefic Mercury has moved on from the SE and in transit now aspects Saturn 24', Pluto 43', Mars 1*19' and the Sun 14' MuTr.
Tr Pluto conjuncts radical Neptune 46' MuTr, and Tr Saturn aspects radical Saturn 22' MuTr.
Here we also see transit Mars coming close conjunction with radical Uranus showing the possibility of an accident. However, an accident was prevented on the launch pad because radical Uranus was aspected by Tr Jupiter 10' MuTr. (Also radical Jupiter aspected transit Moon and Saturn). However note the Mars Uranus paran in the following disaster chart.
Again Mercury, Neptune, and Saturn are prominent. (note the biological correspondence for Mercury/Saturn is the 'blocking of the nervous system', and for Mercury/Neptune the 'loss of power, paralysis of the nerves' - Ebertin). This easily translates to the malfunctioning of the electrical/electronic control systems of Columbia.
 DISASTER
The Disaster occurred 1st Feb 2003 at approximately 8:09 am CST +6:00 somewhere over Athens Texas 32N12'17", 095W51'19'.  
The first thing we note is transit Uranus close conjunction tr Asc, and tr. Mars close conjunction tr. MC forming a tight paran. This paran extended North of and within orb of Cape Canaveral. Natal Uranus is aspected by Neptune, Sun, Moon and Ketu; and natal Uranus is aspected by tr.Sun all within 3* orb MuTr. (this is a wider orb than I would normally use, but lacking a definite time, and allowing for parallax due to Columbia's elevation I think this is reasonable.) So Here we have a classic accident formation.
However I think the main indications centre on the critical natal Mercury Saturn opposition and natal Mercury Neptune paran. In this disaster chart we see all these planets aspecting transit Saturn by MuTr. Saturn/Saturn 54', Saturn/Mercury 45', and Saturn/Neptune 17'.  
 Also interesting is that the disaster chart MC conjunction Mars comes conjunct the Solar Eclipse point on the 8th house MEP point of death. Also transit Neptune is close conjunct tr. Sun on the MEP of 10th house.
 INCEPTIONAL PARAN
Coming back to the critical Mercury Neptune paran in the radical 1st Flight chart, we note that at the time of take off on 16th Jan 03 there was close Mercury/Neptune midpoint to MC in close orb to Cape Canaveral (only 49 miles away). During the flight this slowly moved towards Cape Canaveral. On the day before the accident 31st January 2003 at 4:19pm it was Exact on Cape Canaveral. At the time of the accident it was only 18 miles East.
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[continued from posting above:] by Ron Gaunt
This is an extremely small orb and confirms the problem planets were Mercury Neptune.
 DASA
For those of you who swear by the Vimshottari System you will be pleased to know that the dasas for the fated launch and accident are Mercury Saturn Saturn - the problem axis in the 1st Flight Chart.
 PHILOSOPHICAL CONSIDERATIONS
A pertinent question might be 'If the Inaugural Flight Chart is so bad why was there no accident at that time?'.  
I think that the answer to this would be that there was no affliction from the Solar Eclipse prior to the first launch.
It appears amazing that Columbia survived as long as she did. Again the reason is possibly that by good luck Mission Control managed to avoid problem prior Solar Eclipses.
 RonGaunt  
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« Reply #10 - on: 05.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Dorothy Oja
 
Another sad day for the US as the shuttle Columbia disintegrates with 7 courageous astronauts on board. This past Mercury Rx (its station Rx degree and its station direct degree) was particularly sensitive in the USA chart linking the USA Pluto (power, transformation, life/death) @ 27 Capricorn and the USA Sun (leadership, achievement, ego) @ 12 Cancer. The launch chart tells the outcome. Unfortunately, Columbia launched with Mercury Rx (NASA apparently and unfortunately does not credit astrology or astronomical realities) and with Mars @ 29 Scorpio (a critical degree), readying to shift into Sagittarius. Mars is in a spearating square to Uranus. The angles of the launch time were also all @ 29 degrees - indicating volatility and unexpected results. Another powerful feature in the launch chart is the Rx Mercury @15 Capricorn making an exact 150 deg. angle to an Rx Jupiter @ 15 Leo. Jupiter is the chart co-ruler of the Pisces Ascendant, along with Neptune (modern ruler of Pisces). In the 16 day span of the mission, Jupiter already sensitive by the difficult aspects in the launch chart, moved backwards to 13 deg. Leo and was met there by transiting Sun/Aquarius @ 12 deg. opposing it (180 deg.) and the New Moon (early 2/1/03) had reached 13 deg. Aquarius, translating the Sun's energy, triggering the the exact opposition and breaking apart (expansion = Jupiter). The technical issue seems to have been caused by an expansion/contraction malfunction and the heat of re-entry (Capricorn and Saturn = contraction, protective devices and Leo and Jupiter = expansion and excessive heat) possibly in combination with damage to the wing (wing or arms/limbs = Mercury). The wing could have been damaged during launch when it was hit by debris. Mission control did not figure this was a serious problem at the time! News of the disaster was first reported from the nearest town to see/hear the explosion in the air as Palestine, Texas! With the first ever Israeli astronaut on board, the symbolism continues to be astounding. The shuttle launched with Pluto @ 18 Sadge but returned from its mission after Pluto had moved to 19 Sadge (a brand new degree for Pluto in recorded history of its discovery). This degree axis is extremely sensitive in the charts of the Bush Inaugural, GW Bush's natal chart and the chart for the year 2003! This degree also re-triggers the powerful Solar eclipse of 6/02 @ 19 Gemini. Mars, now in Sadge re-triggers this degree and conjuncts Pluto on 2/16/03.
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I swear that 'trine' between Saturn and Uranus had something to do with it. Many times I've seen trines make an "easy" shot to disaster. As a Astrologer who has over 200 clients, I've seen this over and over again. Check it out friends? Blessedbee
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User David Whitlock
 
(originally posted to the centaurs@yahoogroup)
I decided to look at some of these aviation charts so erected the Kitty Hawk data. Saw the 19°Aqua 33' ascendant and said well my SD natal Pluto is on the descendant here. Saw the 10°Sag Moon conjunct my natal ascendent and square the 11°Virgo Vertex this lead me to look when Pluto was transiting 10°Sag 12' and I found September 4, 2000. I went WOW!! The Sun is at about 11°Virgo on the 4th of September. I will define my concept of the Vertex so as to clarify my train of thought. The Vertex point refers to the intersection of the ecliptic and the prime vertical in the heavens. Sometimes the Vertex is also called the third angle of the chart and in this respect maybe gives us the Z axis co-ordinate to this Planes manifestation of the archetype of Fate...materialization of Hopes and Wishes or their consequences. The following are occurences on or about this degree/day show some alarming synchronicities......
1682 Sep 4, English astronomer Edmund Halley saw his namesake comet.  
1802 Sep 4, A French aeronaut dropped eight-thousand feet equipped with a parachute. 1950 Sep 4, The 1st helicopter rescue of American pilot behind enemy lines.  
1971 Sep 4, An Alaska Airlines jet crashed near Juneau, killing 111 people.  
1989 Sep 4, The Air Force launched its last Titan 3 rocket, which reportedly carried a reconnaissance satellite. Since 1964, the Titan 3 had sent more than 200 satellites into space.  
1995 Oct 20, Space shuttle "Columbia" was launched on a research flight that had been delayed six times.  
Mars is at 29°Scorpio.....more on this later.
1999 Sep 3, NASA temporarily grounded its space shuttle fleet after inspections had uncovered damaged wires that could endanger a mission.  
1996 Sep 4, Anti-aircraft fire lit up the skies of Baghdad, hours after the United States fired a new round of cruise missiles into southern Iraq and destroyed an Iraqi radar site. The US again launched Tomahawk cruise missiles at Iraqi air defense sites. The 2nd launch was deemed a success after the first launch failed to destroy intended targets. The Tomahawks were made by Hughes Aircraft Co. and cost about $1 mil apiece. Kurdish leader Barzani wrote a latter to Sec. of State Christopher Warren and asked that the US mediate. 44 cruise missiles were launched over 2 days plus a rocket from an F-16 fighter.  
1998 Sep 4, In Nevada two Air Force helicopters crashed during training and all 12 people aboard were killed.  
2000 Sep 4, In Australia a Beechcraft King Air 200 plane crashed near Mount Isa after flying for 6 hours on autopilot. 8 people were killed and believed to have blacked out after loss of cabin pressure following takeoff from Perth.  
2000 Sep 4, French investigators announced that a stray length of metal which had gashed a tire of a supersonic Concorde, leading to a fuel tank fire and the plane's fatal crash the previous July, probably came from a Continental Airlines plane that had taken off on the same runway four minutes earlier.  
The Jan 16th launch of Columbia has Venus and the NN in the decanate/constellation Lyra with this 5°Sag 9th house cusp (Tropical Placidus).....Devotion to the discovery of knowledge...18°Sag Pluto opposes the Kitty Hawk 19°Gem Pluto which appears to impart a transformation between the lower and higher minds. The 5°Sag 10th house cusp of the Kitty Hawk chart directs me to the Retrograde Mercury and Chiron in Capricorn in the Jan 16th launch chart. Transiting Uranus is conjunct my natal Moon's NN so I have been looking for some sort of Illumination of an "AHA" experience. On 10-20-95 Columbia was launched after 6 delays and transiting Mars was at that Anaretic 29°Scorpio position as it was again on Jan.16th. Fate eventually plays her cards. The last decanate of Sagitarius ..Sagitta is the Arrow that is thought and Illumination shows in the launch midheaven 10th house cusp of 29°Sag 53'. Juno in the Kitty Hawk chart is at 29° Sag 23' in the 11th house of Aquarian invention. We keep improving our arrows with inspiration from the subconscious .....dreams of astral flight....breaking the Earthly bonds of gravity. Our very thoughts take us toward the Galactic Center where a "Spiritual" gravity pulls us ever upward/inward. I wish I was more informed of all the asteroids and their archetypes....and maybe someone can post where they are in these charts. My intuition is that one of them is clearly defined as to it's archetype with these events. Seems maybe Juno is the Mother of Invention and our technology will over-power us if we do not learn from our lessons. If NASA used an astrologer....surely they would have advised against a Mercury retrograde launch much less considering the connections to Fated aspects.
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[continued from posting above:] by David Whitlock
The Sept.4, 2000 finding as to the crash of the Concorde (Pluto at 10°Sag square Sun at 11°Vir) seems to have resonated to "loss of tire pressure" and damage by debris.  
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User judith donohoe
 
After reading all the excellent commentaries here, i can add only the sad observation that the asteroid, Icarus, with his melted wings, conjuncted Mercury, Feb 1, 2003. My prayers are with the families of this brave crew.
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User Wakinya-Ska
 
While concurring with the many concerning the Retrograde Mercury and the 29 + degrees on the angles of the Launch chart, I have to say that I believe it would be difficult if not impossible to predict the outcome of this disasterous event even for the brightest lights in the heavens. Uranus, retrograde Jupiter opposing the New Moon conjunct Neptune and Retrograde Saturn beginning to make opposition with Pluto ( for the final time in the series ) all conspire to distort the facts, delude the experts and illude the rational and intuitive approach to this horrendous event. Rather than embarrassing the art with the usual lame speculations, why not draw the charts of the Apollo/Challenger/Columbia missions and see what they all have in common, other than sacrificing the lives of some of America's finest. NASA might be greatful for THAT information. Taking this event out of the context of the whole program seems rather daft. I have the information if anyone should care to look for the essential cause rather than the symptoms. The New Moon chart contains another rather interesting message concerning the future of NASA, if not the future of world space exploration. I find it curious that the demise of the Columbia occured in the shadow of this particular New Moon. Don't You?
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« Reply #16 - on: 06.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Hi
There was a grandcross between asteroids with names that resemble what happened:
Icarus-Columbia-Dicovery-Gagarin ( all in less than 3 degree orbs )
Plus Mercury conj Icarus (exact)
And Pluto square NASA ( 3 degree orb )
Pluto and Nasa in 30 degree aspects to that grand cross.
Source, the asteroid web machine of Jonathan Clark Dunn, at www.jonathanclarkdunn.com
Regards
 Daedalus
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re: Space: Columbia #STS 107
« Reply #17 - on: 06.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Robby (Mystic) Butler
 
This NASA mission was likely to have a negative result because of 2 tight saturn clashes in the launch chart. At the time of the launch saturn was quincunx the natal sun of the launch (tragic mission). Saturn was also exactly quincunx mars at the launch indicating a problem with heat (mars) and fire (mars). NASA is in desperate need of professional staff astrologers to help plan launch times. Astrology is for real !
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« Reply #18 - on: 06.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User P. LeGuillou
 
mr/ms Ska's note is preposterous and arrogant. In its infancy, every program suffers falls and set backs. Lets continue to give NASA the encouragement that the Agency deserves. If Ska has vital information, forward it to the proper authorities instead of adopting a belligerent or mocking attitude
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« Reply #19 - on: 06.02.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Rob
 
Can someone confirm the below noted conjunction of Icarus with mercury(I have no ephemeris)
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