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« on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Ricky Martin, born 24 December 1971 at 5:00 PM in Hato Rey Puerto Rico
 
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1. People magazine called Ricky the "sexiest hip-swiveler since Elvis Presley." He has one personal planet in fire. What makes his performances such sexy, high octane events?  
2. In 1999, Ricky Martin had the biggest selling No. 1 single in the history of Columbia Records, received a Grammy for the same, and got a standing ovation from his peers at the Grammies. What made 1999 such a breakaway year for him?  
3. There is a long-standing question about whether Ricky is gay. His response, "I can't get hung up on people whose lives are that empty. I'm an artist and you can fantasize about me however you want." So what is it about this guy that makes so many people fantasize about his sexuality?
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« Reply #1 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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<p align="left">Hi Rowena, <p align="left">It is my mistake. Thanks for catching the typo. I've changed the question to, "Ricky has one personal planet in fire. What makes his performances such sexy, high octane events?" The stellium is certainly a big part of the answer.
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« Reply #2 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Bettina Woolard
 
High energy: Moon cnj Mars close to an angle, though not in an angular sign. Sun in the 8th house of energy. Also, there are angular planets in Scorpio, the sign of raw energy. Angular Jupiter, the 8th house ruler, makes for yet more energy. Very physical types of entertainers usually have strong Scorpio placements; for instance Elvis is generally thought to have a Scorpio asc. Angular Jupiter and asc ruler conjunct Rahu makes him flamboyant, famous, and highly visible. 9th and 10th ruler (Saturn; a first rate Yogakaraka for Taurus asc) in first house aspected by Jupiter is an excellent indicator of fame and popularity.  
Many features of the chart do point to a preference for sexual relationships with other men. Moon/Mars asps often show up in gay male charts. I don't know why, but I suspect that the dynamic of that aspect may be "competition with women", as I've known women with it who are seriously competitive with other women. It also may have to do with the Moon softening Mars' pure masculine energy. Of course there need to be confluent indications for any one trait. Venus aspected by Saturn and Pluto (Grand trine in natal; close cnj in 7th in navamsa) is another indication, and Venus cnj Rahu is yet another. I would expect him to have lovers in high places or positions of power who are likely to be wealthy, because of Jupiter's placement in the 7th of both charts. They are likely to be very materially generous with him as that Jupiter rules 8th. I do think that he has attachments to women, too, whether or not they are romantic and physical I don't know. The reason I say that is that his seventh house ruler is conjunct the Moon.  
RM's voice is important because the ruler of his second house (of voice) is angular and conjunct Jupiter. <p align="left">Now. The one concern I would have for RM is that he not burn out at a relatively young age. He needs to take care of himself and stay away from reckless pursuits or anything that would expend humongous amounts of energy all at one time. this is because of the emphasis on Mars, 8th house, and the sign Scorpio ... also Rahu's cnj to the asc ruler ... and... Mercury/Neptune aspects do not always indicate the best judgment and common sense. Rahu can lift one to the heights of fame and glory and then dash one into the depths of ignominy. Perhaps that excellent Saturn in the first (though not close to the asc) will be his best friend.
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« Reply #3 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Wakinya-Ska
 
<p align="left">Having spent 95% of my adult Capricorn Life in the media I can honestly say that Ricky Martin is the product of a magnificent campaign of hype, etc. His chart is interesting, no doubt, for the Kite which integrates the power of the illusion he is able to control. His statement about his sexuality reflects a subtle manipulation. Ignore it! The masses will eat him alive in the end. Look at the retrograde Saturn in opposition to Neptune. Unless he develops a solid philosophy and spiritual life to replace all of the media hype he will fade from the scene. He is compensating for the need of a solid father figure. The fame and fortune bit will wear thin when he realizes that it is no substitute for a real backbone, which only a strong father figure could impart.. His search for a father will lead him through the institutional phase of the process and finally to his own undoing when he discovers a meaningful spiritual life. When he becomes the parent he yearns for (instead of projecting his need on all the wrong people) he will avoid some of the more horrific results of having an opposition as strong as the Saturn (retrograde) / Neptune. The nature of the business requires him to use the Kite (Saturn, retrograde opposed Neptune sextile Pluto trine Venus) to project the image the public demands of his type of entertainment. However the level of his involvement in alcohol and drugs will determine just how deep an illusion/delusion he creates. His detachment, his desire to be free from all external control will carry him only so far with the public. The public always demands its pound of flesh for the fortune it bestows. The nature of a Venus/Pluto trine can be very difficult in it's negative manifestation and very difficult to break out of because it requires the release of genuine emotion in order to accomplish the break and not a contrived act. My questions are always: What spirit is operating this chart and how is it going to get out of this dilemma? I would like to further know: How can Ric best avoid the snare built into the subtle power of this mutable kite without the spiritual training and discipline he doesn't seem to have acquired along the way? <p align="left">Compare this chart with the chart of Elvis and ask yourself if Ric has a chance to last as long as The King? Capricorn's both yet the difference is day and night and the entertainment business is the same grinding stone. Whew! Better to be an astrologer in obscurity than that fate.
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« Reply #4 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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1. Ricky has only one personal planet in Fire - Mercury in Sagittarius -- which however rules his Ascendant from the opposite angle. Note that his Mercury at 12 Sagittarius (of the "hip" sign) also sits exactly on "Elvis-the-Pelvis" Presley's Ascendant. Also, Jupiter (dispositor of Ricky's Mercury) is in its own sign Sagittarius right on Ricky's Descendant.  
His performances are "sexy, high octane events" not just because Uranus is his least aspected planet, but also as the Uranus Discovery Degree of 24 Gemini conjuncts his Ascendant (in the lively First House) and is aspected by all of the fire planets and both of the luminaries (the Sun being both a fire planet and luminary). The 24 Gemini degree is opposed by Ricky's Sun and Jupiter (and their midpoint) and squared by the Mars/Moon conjunction (on his Midheaven). All these hard aspects form a T-square (24 Gem - Jupiter/Sun - Mars/Moon) which along with Pluto in aspect to all (and the 24 Gemini degree forming the handle of a cradle when Pluto is included), gives him a lot of "kick."  
2. The year 1999 (age 27-28) was such a "breakaway" year for Ricky because (a) Solar Arc progressed Neptune (ruler of his MC) conjoined his natal Sun, (b) transiting Pluto conjunct the midpoint between the rulers of his Ascendant (Mercury) and Descendant (Jupiter), and (c) his SA progressed Ascendant reached 18 Cancer - the Pluto discovery degree that is associated with big money and "breaking away" from the fold. Also, consider his Saturn return in light of my next point..  
3. His chart reveals his comments about his ambiguous sexuality: "I can't get hung up (Saturn) on people whose lives are that empty (opposite Neptune). I'm an artist (Venus natally sextile Neptune and trine Saturn, and Venus progressed to T-square them at their midpoint) and you can fantasize about me however you want (Venus ruling 12th House of imagination)." So many people fantasize about his sexuality because both luminaries (the public) aspect his Saturn which has the above Venus/Neptune aspects and rules his 8th House of sex. Thanks Ricky, I'll join the others and fantasize about you to my heart's content!
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User Bill Lindsay
 
<p align="left">1. high octane performances....I do not subscribe to the idea of 'personal planets', because all of the planets register on us personally....I also note that Mars and the Moon are near the top of the chart, and also near the first point of Aries....Ricky is very physically-natured, and obviously believes in using his body in some physical way to earn a living and get the things he needs....Mars is the aggressive man....being conjunct the Moon, Mars will reflect his feelings and emotions in some way, and he can be very protective of himself and his private life....professionally, he can easily go it alone...both are in trine to Neptune in Sagittarius and opposite Pluto in Libra....he is guided by deep emotional yearnings and inner voices, so he is very independent and original....believes in taking action to live the life he wants to live....do what he needs for himself....also Mars-Moon is in the middle of a double-sextile, with Venus in Aquarius and Saturn in Gemini....he is a brilliant organizer who can think on his feet....lives for the moment and is very spontaneous....but one voice we cannot ignore regarding personality and professional life is the Sun....which does not sit well at all in relation to the Moon and Mars....the Sun here is in Capricorn, squaring Pluto and the Moon....some big part of him does not like the instability of his life and wants a secure and organized niche...actually needs to be the 'one', the center of all action....and is also very self-conscious about how he appears....so it would not surprise me if his every stage appearance was orchestrated and planned right down to the last hip-swivel.... <p align="left">2. 1999.....I note that Pluto that year was approaching his Mercury in Sagittarius...at the same time Uranus was in mid-Aquarius sextile to his own Uranus in Libra....with Neptune in Aquarius just finishing a trine to his Gemini Saturn....all this Uranus-Aquarius activity suggests sudden windfalls....sudden ideas...catchy tunes and obsessive crazes are both products of this....as is living a spontaneous and unstable lifestyle...'la vida loca' ...Smiley <p align="left">3. sexuality...other than the Uranus-Aquarian tendencies toward the odd and unusual in experiences....I note that Aquarius and Venus are both in his 8th House....the 8th is sexual habits....this could be where he explores his need to be a rebel...Aquarius is often repelled by other's expectations....this is where he tries to do the opposite of what 'everyone else does'....he is probably more likely to be bisexual than just plain homosexual...because he would want more the new and the different....Mars and Venus are on mutually good terms in this chart....they are sextile...so he would be attracted to (and attractive to) both sexes....he is indeed a very dynamic man...the problem is his Capricorn Sun wants to box up all this energy into an organized and structured life....but he rebels against his own limits...anyway with Venus in Aquarius one thing that plagues his relationships is the question of 'stay or go'....he tends to want varying sexual experiences with varying partners....dating frenzies....he is liable to get into a number of paternity dilemmas if he is not careful....
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« Reply #6 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Just a few comments on Ricky's sexy and high octane performances with only one personal planet in Tropical fire. I've been writing a series of articles on the Sidereal (Jyotish or Vedic) signs for ISAR's magazine, The International Astrologer. The sidereal signs have been badly misinterpreted because almost everyone tries to make them like the tropical signs of the same name.  
The Tropical and sidereal signs overlap by 5-7 degrees. One of the important points I make in relation to the signs of the zodiac is that if only one zodiac is valid, then in the tropical zodiac the last degrees of signs will behave like the following tropical sign. If the sidereal zodiac is valid, then the early degrees of sidereal signs will act like the preceding sign.  
In the sidereal zodiac it's the Cancer triplicity of signs (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces) that are the "high octane," high energy signs that are called "fiery" in the tropical zodiac.  
So ... Ricky has a Moon-Mars conjunction at the top of his chart in the public 10th, but it's in reclusive tropical Pisces - in the last degrees. But if we change this conjunction to the sidereal zodiac, it's still in Pisces (which behaves exactly like tropical Aries), so we have a very "fiery" conjunction, which shows up to a "T" in Ricky's performances.  
 Jupiter is in the degree exactly opposing Ricky's Ascendant degree. Read that as Jupiter in tropical Sagittarius, and you have a perfect picture of Ricky's high energy and appeal to millions of fans. Ricky's chart is one of those that gives strong support to the characteristics of sidereal signs. Moon/Mars in tropical Pisces and Jupiter in tropical Scorpio just won't cut it.  
Also, in the navamsa chart Ricky has Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, and Pluto all in sidereal Pisces. These four planets will pile up on top of his natal Moon-Mars, giving a whopping dose of tropical Aries type energy. There you have it - the fiery energy!  
One additional comment about Ricky's sexuality: Chad Henry has written here that Ricky has been known to openly date men. Ricky does have the homosexual signature noted in ancient texts: a particular interaction of Venus-Mercury-Saturn and their signs. In Ricky's sidereal chart Venus and Saturn exchange signs (Taurus/Capricorn) and Mercury is in the 7th house of relationships. Since Saturn is in the 1st (sign), it aspects Mercury in 7.  
But we need more than the natal chart, and that's why we look to the navamsa chart, which traditionally shows relationships. In the navamsa Ricky has Venus and Saturn in the same degree of Pisces in the 7th house. These are squared by Mercury in Sag in the 4th, and Mercury's dispositor, Jupiter, is in the 7th with Saturn and Venus. Ricky has two other indications of being homosexual that I've seen in many gay charts which have some of the other basic patterns: Venus with the nodes (natally Rahu is with Venus) and Pluto in the 7th.(Ricky has Pluto in the navamsa 7th.) Mars-Moon aspects also show up very frequently in gay charts, but of course many people have Moon-Mars aspects who aren't gay.
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<p align="left">Mars and the moon in the 1oth house square jupiter in the 7th for high impact appeal!!!
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« Reply #8 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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<p align="left">I don't watch tv, but I did happen to see a piece of a music video on him, that was like some sort of soft porn show. I guess that sums up the music biz today. Oh well... If this is a correct time, I think the importance of Jupiter on the descendant is significant. I have heard the tightest aspect, and the planet most closely aligned with one of the axises is very good at indicating a lot of tendencies, and characteristics in an individual. The whole chart is leaning to the relationship zone, with the exception of Saturn. Also, the t square with the Sun at the apex is within a very dynamic pattern involving Mars/Moon and Pluto. That's a lot of sexual energy locked up, and it has to go somewhere. The music/porn/entertainment biz is a good outlet. As far as what his sexual orientation is concerned, who cares? I agree with him! Okay, he has some placements that suggest the unusual. Uranus trine the ascendant in the 5th. Venus in Aquarius in the 8th. Hummm. <p align="left">About the success in 99 ... I have only looked at the secondary progs. Not enough astrologers seem to focus on them, but to do proper analysis of a chart one needs to do both progs and transits. Anyway, The prog Sun and Saturn form a trine with one another at 29Cap, and 29 Taurus respectively, which line up beautifully with his Pisces Moon in the 10th at 29%. The prog moon is also moving through Pisces, which adds to his already present ability to create an imaginary dreamlike aura in his 'performances'. Okay, I will throw in some transits. Jupiter was in Pisces at the beginning of the year, which would be probably suggest a favourable factor in his career. Saturn is in Taurus his solar 5th, which might incline him to work on his creative abilities more. He is an actor, after all, with his Sun at the top of the t square, but perhaps not in the standard way we think of actors. Music's mystery has been hijacked somewhat, in this age of mega stardom madness. What a pity. <p align="left">[was_link]mailto:sandstone8@yahoo.com [/was_link]18Jan2001 <hr> <p align="left">As a palmist, I have a contribution to make concerning the sexuality of Ricky Martin. You have cited rickymartin.com. At that site is an excellent picture of the outstretched palm of Ricky Martin. At the base of his palm is a definite "widow's peak". These particular lines denote problems w/sexuality: i.e. impotence, premature ejaculation, unable to be fulfilled, confused in sexuality identity. <p align="left">You note that he left home at a very young age. Most likely he was able to happily leave home, so that he could explore his sexual self. <p align="left">Tony Louis' commentary is the most comprehensive and easy-to-understand thesis of all contributors.
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« Reply #9 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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<p align="left">Ricky Martin's Vedic / sidereal chart clearly reflects his fame and success in the form of 4 powerful Raja (royal) yogas involving the lords of his 1st, 5th, 9th and 10th houses. Saturn is at the core of this dynamic, and by itself makes a royal yoga as lord of the 9th and 10th houses (the two best houses), placed in the 1st where it has the maximum effect. It also forms two more powerful royal yogas as 9th and 10th lord combining with 1st lord Venus, planet of love and sensuality, sitting in the 9th. These yogas are formed because these two planets exchange houses, and is very strong because they are mutual great friends. Saturn also forms another very strong royal yoga by mutually aspecting 5th lord Mercury (a friend of Saturn) in the 7th. When Mercury, Venus and Saturn start forming powerful yogas together, the results are often very dramatic (see, for example, Albert Einstein). What makes these yogas super potent is the fact that the planets involved are mutually friendly to each other, connect with the 1st house, rule the best houses, and are placed in the angular or trinal houses. <p align="left">Not surprisingly, his 1st lord is Venus, planet of love and sensuality, very strong in a good house in a friends sign. As 10th (career) lord in the 1st (native), Saturn indicates that RMs career is a consequence of who he is, a combination that has shown up quite frequently in the charts of famous people presented on AstroDatabank. This is especially true for Saturn as it makes an aspect back into the 10th house from the 1st. The intense sensuality and sexuality he projects come from the exchange of houses Saturn has with sensual, sexy Venus, and from the aspects the 1st house and Saturn receive from Mercury and Jupiter in Scorpio, sign of sexual power. And Jupiter's power is enhanced even further because he is in the 8th sign (Scorpio) and is at the same time lord of the 8th house (Sagittarius). <p align="left">The 3rd house rules performing, and there is a lot going on here. This house is aspected by Saturn from the 1st, by 1st lord Venus from the 9th and by sexually charged Jupiter from the 7th in Scorpio. Venus and Jupiter contribute the sensuality and sexual power, and Saturn and Venus link the 3rd house directly to the 1st and 1st lord. In addition to this, 3rd lord Moon is energized by close association (conjunction) with fiery Mars. And to make this combination even more potent, Mars exchanges houses with Jupiter in Scorpio, and both Mars and Moon in the 11th house are aspected by Jupiter from Scorpio. <p align="left">The success he has had in the last few years is clearly indicated in his Vimshottari Dashas or life cycles. From October 1998 to November 2000 he was in a Mercury - Jupiter cycle, and from then till July 2003 he is in Mercury - Saturn, the very planets which are the crux of his fame and success. <p align="left">As to the speculation about his sexual orientation, the 1st house - 7th house mutual aspects and yogas indicate a very powerful sexual dynamic in his life. The 7th house can also represent others in general -  i.e. the public, so it is not surprising that it has become an issue for many of his fans. And as a consequence of the Venus - Saturn exchange, an unusual sexual orientation, maybe even bisexuality, is not beyond the range of possibility.
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« Reply #10 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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<p align="left">Hi Lois: <p align="left">Why do you say Ricky Martin has no personal planets in Fire? His mercury is in Sag, which is fire. The fact that it's in a stellium accentuates that I should think. <p align="left">Maybe this is just a typo? <p align="left">Hope all is well. <p align="left">Rowena
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« Reply #11 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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<p align="left">Hi Rowena, <p align="left">It is my mistake. Thanks for catching the typo. I've changed the question to, "Ricky has one personal planet in fire. What makes his performances such sexy, high octane events?" The stellium is certainly a big part of the answer. <p align="left">Mark McDonough President AstroDatabank Company
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1. Personal Fire planets aren't the only indicator of "sexy, high octane" performances. The Moon conjunct Mars creates a lot of fire and Mars opposing Pluto is also very combustible. Jupiter in fire exactly opposing the Ascendant also helps and the Mercury in Sagittarius is the ruler of the Ascendant and unaspected in fire. The South Node in Leo would suggest that he came in with lots of "fire" from past life developments (which might explain why he got into commercials and school plays at six years of age.) Uranus in the 5th house of fire trining the Ascendant is also an indicator of "fire" energy. There's also a Grand Trine in Air to fan all that fire and the Pluto of that trine creates a Kite pattern with the opposition to the Moon/Mars conjunction. If you look at the declinations, the parallel of the Sun and Jupiter would also suggest a bit of grandiose fire.  
2. In 1999 the Progressed Sun entered Aquarius and activated the Venus in the 8th which is part of his Grand Trine in Air. At the same time his Progressed Moon conjuncted his natal Moon/Mars conjunction and activated the Kite pattern formed with the Grand Trine. That's a huge amount of energy . . . .enough to put him on the cover of Time magazine in May of 1999. The year before (July 1998) when Jupiter hit that same point (28-29 Pisces) he sang the theme song for the World Soccer Cup and it was estimated that this was viewed by close to a billion people in 187 countries of the world (and almost immediately his Cup of Life single became #1 on the charts in over 30 Countries) At the time transiting Neptune was conjunct his Venus in the 8th and again activating that very powerful Grand Trine.  
3. This man is a dynamo of energy that I think everyone experiences in their own way. For many it's just raw sexuality; for others it's exhilarating life force that's much more enlivening that mere sexuality. But to each their own, in whatever way they care to receive and translate it. He doesn't seem to care how it's interpreted and with Saturn in his 12th and ruling his 8th I would guess that he doesn't want to be defined in any kind of preconceived way (like gay, straight, celibate, or whatever).
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<p align="left">1. What makes his performances such sexy high-octane etc.? For starters, Ricky's ascendant, Gemini, is ruled by Mercury in Sagittarius, a Fire sign, and is part of an Air grand trine - great natural talent for communication. He communicates in a fiery and passionate manner (and an international one - Sag being the natural ruler of the 9th). Jupiter in Sagittarius is the final dispositor of the chart, as well as the Oriental planet - and Sagittarius is on his 7th cusp - a house of fame, along with the 10th. The entire top note of his chart is Fire. Mercury is also widely conjunct Jupiter in the 7th, which expands the Fire that he projects through his natural Grand Trine talents for communication with a Fiery significator. (Saturn in his Grand Trine, at 00 Gemini, is disposited by Mercury in Sagittarius as well. Even though his Grand Trine is in the watery houses of Endings, it has a square to his 7th house Sun in Capricorn, pulling the trine into the public eye. <p align="left">One other note, which also spills over into the question about his sexuality, is Venus trine Pluto and Saturn in this chart (the Grand Trine) Venus trine Pluto greatly heightens the powers of his sex appeal, and trine to hard-working, behind-the-scenes Saturn in the 12th - he can work his moneymaker! There's much more of course, but this is pretty good for starters. <p align="left">2. Breakaway year? Well, different folks find different things here, but Transiting Neptune, ruler of his MC, planet of glamour, romance, music, film, and television, conjoined natal Venus, thus activating Ricky's Grand Air Trine. Venus is considered fortunate and is a money planet, and is in the 8th house of Other People's Money; Venus is trine Pluto (the masses, as some would have it), natural ruler of the 8th house, and empowering Venus even more. (Pluto is also conjunct the "Aries Point"--00 of any Cardinal point which according to Hand, Tyl, et al, can thrust certain planet-related behaviors into the forefront of other people's awareness--Pluto in Libra at 00 Libra, although generational here, throws the sex appeal, drive for money and power, into the public's perception of Ricky. Ricky's Progressed Sun, ruler of his third house of communications, was transiting his money 8th house, closing in on a trine to natal Saturn, again, activating Ricky's Grand Trine. Transiting Uranus, ruler of Ricky's 9th house of international focus, was trine Natal Uranus (also dispositor of Venus). Transiting Saturn, ruler of his 8th house of money, trined his Sun and Jupiter around Grammy time. Tr Pluto, (again, part of his Grand Trine) made an exact square to Ricky's MC at Grammy time (--a big career development). Tr Jupiter squared Ricky's Sun on Grammy day; Solar Arc directed Jupiter squared the Moon/Pluto midpoint. Transiting Jupiter squared Jupiter, squared his Ascendant, and conjoined his natal Moon. <p align="left">3. Ricky is clearly gay, both in his chart, but also this fact is quickly corroborated by so many of the show people that have worked with him through the years, for instance the Broadway gypsies in Les Miz, which Ricky performed in for a while--Ricky was openly dating men at the time, as his coworkers will attest. The chart so clearly communicates an alternative (and somewhat closeted) sexuality. Venus and Uranus (significator of homosexuality) in mutual reception, Venus in Aquarius in the 8th house of sex, Uranus in Libra in the 5th house of affairs, ruled by that same Venus in Aquarius; Saturn retrograde ruling the 8th and closeted in the 12th yet trine Venus, with Pluto in Libra (profound transformation in relationships) trining both Saturn and Pluto. The ascendant is in the Aquarius decanate, so is co-ruled or disposited by Uranus. It's a highly-sexed chart, by the looks of it. What might cause others to fantasize about his sexuality, or else wonder about it, first, might be his Moon-Mars conjunction in Pisces in the 10th house, along with his Pisces Midheaven - trined by Neptune. Glamour, mystery and charisma - and Pisces is a double-bodied sign as well - Ricky projects sensitivity and androgyny despite his macho posturing. Since Pisces is the sign of fantasy, and Mars is one of the significators of male sexuality in the chart, and these elements are posited in the highly visible 10th house, people are naturally going to speculate. Natal Neptune is also at the midpoint of Pluto/North Node, which is going to project a sense of mystery or deception to the public.
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« Reply #14 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Thanks for catching the typo, Chad. The question should have been, "Ricky has one personal planet in fire. What makes his performances such sexy, high octane events?" Mercury is indeed a personal planet in fire. I am not, however, inclined to call Jupiter a personal planet. Everyone in Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Oct, Nov, Dec 1971 and Jan, Aug, Sep 1972 had Jupiter in Sagittarius. I acknowledge that some folks would consider Jupiter and Saturn personal planets. I've even met people who consider Pluto to be a personal planet. If Pluto is conjunct one's Moon it certainly seems to become personal. I guess that's the point. The further out the planet, the more justification required to make it personal. As Rowena Wall points out, in Ricky's case Mercury is part of a stellium.  
Mark McDonough
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« Reply #15 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Eleanor A. Buckwalter
 
I have recast Ricky Martin's chart in the Placidus house system, and the answers are based on that.  
1. The statement that he's the "sexiest hip-swiveler since Elvis Presley" can be attributed to his Moon/Mars conjunction in the last, critical, degrees of Pisces in the career 10th house. This conjunction makes an out-of-sign sextile to the Venus singleton (only fixed sign) in Aquarius in the erotic 8th house, and an out-of-sign trine to Neptune (10th house ruler) in Sagittarius in the 6th house of work/job. The 6th is, in turn, ruled by a Pluto singleton (only personal house) in the 4th. That's pretty "hot stuff!" The public (10th house and Moon) can project all kinds of sexual fantasies on him!  
His Ascendant ruler Mercury is in the 6th along with the Mid-Heaven ruler Neptune, both are in Sagittarius and disposed of by Jupiter, strong in its own sign, in the 7th house of public relations and partners. The combo of ASC & MC rulers in the fire sign Sagittarius, plus all of the above aspects equates to performances that are "sexy, high octane" events.  
2. The year 1999 was such a breakaway one for him for reasons of powerful aspects from both transiting and progressed planets to his natal planets. The progressed Sun came to a conjunction with natal Venus in Aquarius in the 8th, while transiting Neptune made a station to go direct just 24 minutes shy of an exact conjunction to natal Venus and progressed Sun -- giving a highly inflated erotically romantic image and musical performances. Natal Venus was even more erotic and universally magically attractive! The progressed Moon was in Pisces and went over the natal Moon/Mars conjunction, while transiting Jupiter also went over the Moon/Mars, bringing big public acclaim. Transiting Pluto was approaching a conjunction with natal Mercury, empowering both him personally and his work.  
3. What makes so many people fantasize about his sexuality? Much of this is answered in the response to question #1. With Moon/Mars conjunct in Pisces in the 10th along with the above mentioned aspects to Venus and Neptune it is all too easy for people in general (male and female, young and old) to fantasize about him and his sexuality. However, with the ruler of the 8th, Saturn, in the 12th, he is not going to say what, if any or all, his sexual orientation(s) is (or are). Saturn opposes Neptune; so, he'll leave it to your imagination! He could be a monk for all we know! Or have a harem of girls, boys, sheep, angels and aliens!  
Thanks for the chart and bio.
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« Reply #16 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User William C. Autrey
 
I do not care whether Ricky is gay or not. Usually people who move like he does is a magnet and I get turned on just watching him. Most people just do not admit when pure sexuality is standing right in front of them. Whether it is Brad Pitt or Matt Damon or Ricky, the universe simply puts together a package that makes our Neptune revolve and most of us know that we are jealous of that package. Like Elvis it may ruin him for ordinary life.  
Ah those Cubans!
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« Reply #17 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User madame 7
 
1) sexiness:  venus/north node in 8th house trine pluto...yep, that'll do it.  magnetic and alluring.  
2) i would have to do a transit chart for this one.  
3) venus in aquarius maybe, gemini rising, in fact the whole grand trine in air signs could make someone appealing to a variety of people.  especially gemini, which can mutate to fit anyone's ideals.
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« Reply #18 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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To add to some of the aforementioned things about this chart are that:  
* The Aries point is added to the mix of the Sun-Mars-Moon-Pluto T-Square, bringing some fire to the chart  
* Venus and Uranus are in mutual reception adding both to the sex appeal and the sexuality issue
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« Reply #19 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Harry Pearson
 
You keep saying he has no personal planets in fire, but the chart shows a Mercury in Sagittarius. You don't need fire to electrify, the combination of his Gemini ascendant and the Pisces stellium could do the trick, especially since he is grounded in the performer's earth sign, Capricorn. And, for the record, the gay indicators are all there.
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