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« on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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M.C. Hammer, born 30 March 1962 at 11:59 AM in Oakland CA
 
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  • Can anyone find the transits, progressions or dashas that would predict this cycle of rags to riches and back to rags?
  • What brings God into his life at this time?
  • People complain about computerized chart readings giving contradictory readings, but this man has lived a very contradictory life. He has swung from wild ostentation to sincere devotional simplicity. Can you find both sides of the personality in the chart?
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« Reply #1 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Brian Habit
 
Before looking at the transits and progressions, it's important to consider the potential represented by the natal chart. With Leo on the 2nd house cusp, Uranus in Leo in the 2nd, and Pluto (ruler of the 5th house) in the second, there's a strong Leonine flavor to Hammer's approach to earning and spending. One potential pitfall then is becoming a high-stakes gambler and showing off through his possessions. Since Pluto's in the 2nd, he could expect to experience profound endings and new beginnings in this part of his life, and since Uranus is there, his finances could turn on a dime (no pun intended) for good or bad. Hence, the potential for rags to riches and back again.
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M.C. Hammer has 2 magi super aspects in his chart:1/ sun quincunx pluto (a magi enhancement) which means a man of power, big business, competitive drive and ambition, and 2/ venus trine uranus which means luck with the public, money from recording/mass media/radio/videos/tv. The most outstanding thing in his chart to me is his proximity enhancement of mercury exactly semi-sextile his venus which was in his 10th house of career success which indicates money (venus) from talking/rapping or the use of his voice and writing ability (mercury). There was also an aspected declinational magi quad indicating the potential for fame from energetic communication and an appealing voice: jupiter and uranus quadralizing mercury parallel mars and venus. The mercury parallel mars explains his pseudonym. Mercury= MC and Mars= Hammer. This sums up his style of assertive, dynamic rapping.  
1988 to 1990 was his new start up phase which was triggered by transiting saturn after the last exact square to his natal sun. At this time he signed his first multi record deal (1989). During his new start down phase in 1996, when transiting saturn was conjuncting his natal sun in aries, he ended up in bankruptcy court to prove how true astrology really is. Visit me any time at http://escape.to/soulmates.
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User Patricia
 
I am becoming interested in Magi Astrology, they use 2 chart system, zodiac and delinations. Chiron was on libra, squaring his sun, Pluto in sag, coming into a square to his chiron- success, saturn by transit went from pices to aries , his mercury to his sun eventual, not enough space to include declination ideas or even expand on the ones above, just hints and probabilites...
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« Reply #4 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Dorothy J. Kovach
 
1. Can anyone find the transits, progressions or dashas that would predict this cycle of rags to riches and back to rags?  
Looking at Mr. Hammer's chart from an eastern perspective, he has Gemini rising with Mercury in Pisces in the 10th house. His life as well as his occupation will be subject to 'ups and downs' with a double bodied ruler placed in the sign of it's fall in the 10th house. But for the specifics of making and losing a great deal of money M. C. Hammer's second house of money contains the North Node or as it is called in the east, 'Rahu'. In the eastern system the North Node is not 'likened to Jupiter' as it is in the west. According to the traditions of the east, Rahu, as the one of the demarcation points of the eclipses (the other is the South Node or Ketu) will tend to give uneven or erratic behavior. The house where Rahu resides will give insatiable worldly desires. It is no surprise, then that Rahu is often prominent in the charts of politicians. In M. C. Hammer's chart, Rahu is in his second house so there will be an unquenchable thirst in the area of money and personal finance. Thus, Rahu can bring a great deal of money to the native. However, it will also take it all away. There is a saying that the Rahu dasa will bring great disruption in the very beginning and the ending of it's 18 year cycle. In Thus we see the vast material wealth Hammer made, as well as lost. It is of note that in the eastern system, it is the 2nd, and not the third house that is the source of our words, so it is no surprise that the source of Mr. Hammer's income now as then comes from the words that he sang and/or preached. Mr. Hammer began his Rahu dasa in 1980, and came into his wealth while he was running his Rahu-Mercury Dasa, (Mercury is Hammer's chart ruler and in the second of his navamsa chart). Venus will tell us a lot about how a person is with money. Hammer has his Venus, in fast and burning hot Aries, in his 11th house of profits. From 1991 through December of 1994, Hammer was running a Rahu- Venus cycle. I will assume, that it was during this cycle that he spent his money as quickly, if not more quickly than it was coming in. And true to the Rahu's reputation for disruption at the end of his cycle, Hammer and his creditors had to face the fact that he was broke 1996 when he was running Rahu's next to last Bhukti cycle, the Moon, which, incidentally, is the ruler of his second house and is placed in the 8th of other people's money, conjoined to the great contractor, Saturn, and drain, Ketu. There were certainly a lot of other people helping him burn through his funds, to say the least!  
2. What brings God into his life at this time?  
First and foremost, Hammer's ruler is in Pisces, this is a sign ruled by Jupiter. His ruler is conjoined to the Sun, but not combust. The Sun in the eastern system rules our spirituality. With this combination, he will be at his heart essentially philosophical if not a totally religious/spiritual person. And guess what the Dasa is that runs right after Rahu Dasha? Jupiter! Hammer began his Jupiter dasa mid 1998. Jupiter rules Hammer's all important tenth house, and is placed in his 9th house of religion, apt for one with a congregation!  
3. People complain about computerized chart readings giving contradictory readings, but this man HAS lived a very contradictory life. He has swung from wild ostentation to sincere devotional simplicity. Can you find both sides of the personality in the chart?  
All sorts of different types of personalities have been known to experience great swings monetarily. M. C. Hammer is certainly not the first man to come up from poverty to make a vast amount of money (without understanding sound investment practices), only to lose it all. It is my feeling that if one wants to examine the potential for the loss or gain of the money one earns themselves, then they will have greater success through a study of the second house ruler and the tenants of the second, their disposition and the aspects they receive, than by an examination of the first house ruler (personality) and it's disposition and the tenants and the aspects it receives. However, you bring up an interesting point, since I wonder, had Hammer a stronger first house ruler, (Hammer has a weak ruler, Mercury in Pisces) whether he would have been as easily influenced by outsiders, and thus maybe, be able to hang on to his money a little better. Still his second house Rahu aspected by Saturn and the South Node in the 8th, is a pretty strong indicator that the person holding such a set up will at some point in his life be forced to learn the duel lesson of material wealth, that is both, loss and gain.  
Thank you again for your thought provoking site.
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« Reply #5 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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In M.C. Hammer's natal chart, Uranus occupies his 2nd house of income and opposes Jupiter in his 8th house of joint finances. This opposition between major planets in his money houses suggests that he is prone sudden fluctuations in his finances.  
Natally, he has Mars and Mercury in Pisces in his 9th house of religion, giving him a propensity to speak out about his religious beliefs, especially since Mercury closely trines his Ascendant.  
In his 1996 non-precessed Solar Return for Oakland, CA, Saturn sits right on the Descendant, making it the most prominent factor in that year's return chart. Saturn is associated with paying the piper, which in this case appears to be his bankruptcy. SR Saturn is quincunx his natal 2nd house Uranus, indicating major adjustments in his financial picture in 1996.  
In his 2000 non-precessed Solar Return for Oakland, CA, Venus now sits on the Descendant, giving him a more fortunate and prosperous year. This prominent SR Venus lies in spiritual Pisces and occupies his natal 9th of religion, conjunct his natal Mercury in the 9th, and trine his natal Ascendant. These are all indicators of a strong interest in religion, harmoniously expressed. In addition, SR Pluto in 2000 exactly conjoins his natal Neptune, which rules his natal 9th of religion. Pluto brings radical change and transformation to whatever planet it touches. This radical change in his religious outlook is linked to natal Neptune and SR Pluto conjunct in his natal 5th house of creative self-expression.
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« Reply #6 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Teresa Hamilton
 
The money-in money-out wild and crazy years for M.C. Hammer might be called "a study of Rahu." Rahu and Uranus are both in the (Indian equal) house of the voice, money and resources. They are opposed by (1) the 2nd Sidereal house lord Moon, (2) Saturn (8th lord) and (3) Ketu (loss and lack of control). This potent opposition has to be activated for a rags-to-riches-to rags cycle to manifest. Also in the navamsa chart Rahu and Ketu are again in the 2nd/8th houses in the same signs as the natal chart (Cancer/Capricorn). But their position is reversed with Ketu being in Cancer in the 2nd. I think it's this nodal overlap between the natal and navamsa charts in 2nd/8th that describes the extreme financial swings and excesses of this period of Hammer's life.  
Hammer was running Rahu's dasa during his years of great wealth and wild spending (roughly 1990-1995). Ketu's sub-period began in November of 1990. We're solidly at home here in the 2nd-8th houses since Ketu is about 6 degrees from he equal 8th cusp. The Venus sub-period began in November of 1991. Since Venus is in Ketu's lunar mansion, we're staying with Ketu in the 8th. The Sun's sub-period began in November 1994. The Sun is in Saturn's lunar mansion: Saturn is in the 8th house with Ketu. Finally in October of 1995 the Moon's sub-period began. This period broke the 2nd-8th house cycle since the Moon is in the Sun's lunar mansion and the Sun is in the 10th. Now we're in the law courts (Moon is in the 7th house). But it's still all about money and responsibility because the Moon is in the 8th sign in association with Saturn (8th and 9th lord).  
Hammer left the erratic Rahu period in May of 1998 when Jupiter's major period began. Jupiter is in the 9th sign (house of God), and is powerful in Sagittarius in the navamsa chart. But Jupiter is in a Rahu lunar mansion. This time around common sense seems to have the upper hand, and Hammer may continue to use his voice in a more helpful way (Rahu in the 2nd). He'll still have wide exposure (Jupiter) and be associated with groups of people (Jupiter in the equal 8th house). But Jupiter in the 9th sign emphasizes religion whereas Rahu in the 2nd emphasized money.  
I looked at the long-term transits for 1991-1995. Both Uranus and Neptune were retrograding in Sidereal Sagittarius in opposition to Hammer's ascendant during his spending years. In 1996, the year of court bankruptcy proceedings, both these planets were finally out of Sagittarius and out of aspect to the ascendant. Picture Hammer's navamsa chart: Gemini rises with Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 7th. The Moon and Neptune are in Pisces in 10th. This square of Jupiter to Moon/Neptune sounds more like Hammer than the natal Moon conjunct Saturn. So the transit of Uranus and Neptune through Sagittarius activated navamsa Jupiter (excess) and the planets it disposits, Moon and Neptune in Pisces.  
Wild swings in life direction and/or moods: Pisces is a dual sign and seems to be always two (or three or four) sided either day-to-day or throughout life in the directions taken. It often has a strong religious side since it's ruled by Jupiter and Neptune. Hammer has natal Sun and Mercury (ascendant lord) in Pisces and Moon/Neptune in the navamsa. This will all pile up together to create a lot of Piscean energy. This energy is like Tropical Aries, but very dualistic and emotional. (So is Tropical Aries if we take a close look at that sign.)
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« Reply #7 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Lea Breuer
 
1. Can anyone find the transits, progressions or dashas that would predict this cycle of rags to riches and back to rags?  
** In 1991 he earned a staggering $33 million **  
By the beginning of September 1991 the secondary progressed Moon hit natal Jupiter in the 8th, Progressed Jupiter was less than a degree from an opposition to natal Pluto, on the cusp of the natal 3rd. In the progressed chart, the tight Jupiter/Pluto opposition was smack on the progressed 8th/2nd house axis, forming an exact trine/sextile with the progressed Mc/Ic axis. The Progressed Ascendant hit natal North Node in the natal 2nd. Progressed Venus was exactly conjunct natal and progressed Kronos in the natal 11th house, (the 10th progressed house). Venus/Kronos is the uranian Formula for "The great helping hand. benevolence."  
Zooming into the 16th harmonic for the same progressed chart, adding in the TNPs, one finds:  
Pr Asc = Pr Pluto = Aries Point. (The desire to attain success in life at all cost. A fascinating world famous personality, ruling and controlling one's environment.)  
Pr Jupiter = Pr Vulcanus = natal Asc. Jupiter/Vulcanus is the uranian formula for "Optimism, confidence. Mighty Luck. Success by force. The power of money and finances".  
Pr Moon = Pr. Sun = Pr. Venus = natal Jupiter = natal Kronos. Jupiter/Kronosis the formula of a great money man or a lucky and successful manager. It is a natal configuration in this chart (tight square) that was now activated simultaneously by progressed Moon, Sun and Venus as they hit this axis in the 16th harmonic (forming exact aspects to this axis, which are multiples of the 22:30 hard aspect, aka semi-semi-square).  
*** He was one of the richest rap stars in the world until he squandered millions with the high life and ended up in bankruptcy court in 1996, owing some $13.7 million ***  
In 1996 the Progressed Mc hit natal Hades in the 10th while making an exact square to progressed Saturn. In Uranian Astrology HADES stands for POVERTY and "Being pursued by Misfortune" among other things. The Hades/Saturn combination can be read as "being impoverished by sickness" or "Serious Loss and serious obstacles". Progressed Ic was also exactly on the progressed Neptune (smack on the natal cusp of the 5th of "self indulgence"). This progressed Hades/Saturn/Neptune very tight T-square that aligns with the progressed Mc/Ic axis exactly, can be interpreted as "Severe loss. Dismal fate. Ugly habits. To experience hindrances through deceptions or mistakes or other vile circumstances".  
The above configuration took place simultaneously with a PROGRESSED NEW MOON conjunct the progressed MC. This PROGRESSED NEW MOON (August the 5th 1996) was exactly square the progressed Nodal axis. As mentioned above, it was conj. Progressed Hades, square Progressed Saturn, Opposite Progressed Neptune, all very tight.  
A progressed NEW MOON marks the end of one cycle in life and the beginning of another. Whatever the native labored for in the former cycle, is now totally abandoned and replaced by new values and different objectives, that will become prominent in the new progressed Moon cycle. The fact that this new cycle begins as the New Moon is aligned with such a difficult Mc/Hades/Saturn/Neptune/Node grand cross, tells much about what the new progressed lunar cycle will be like, and what the native will have to learn and develop during the new cycle.  
The Progressed Mercury/Kronos exact conjunction (square natal Jupiter) is very prominent in this Progressed NEW MOON chart. In Uranian astrology , the Mercury/Kronos combination is the kernel formula for THE GREAT SPIRITUAL LEADER or MASTER OF COMMUNICATION. The Mercury/Kronos/Jupiter combination is "A Good spiritual leader or orator. Obliged to deliver a lecture. Taking an oath."  
Another prominent aspect in this Progressed NEW MOON chart is the exact progressed Jupiter/Pluto opposition on the Aries Axis (world axis, both on 7:30 degrees mutable). Jupiter/Pluto/Aries Point combination mark "A fortunate transformation in general".  
2. What brings God into his life at this time?  
Of course, this started with the Progressed NEW MOON back in 1996, conjunct Mc (ego consciousness), square North Node (destiny? life path?), square Saturn (duties and obligations), opposite Neptune (transcendence, ruler of 9th of religion).  
By late 1998 progressed Sun is exactly square natal North Node and inconjunct progressed Poseidon (religion, spirituality). Progressed Jupiter makes an exact hard aspect of the 16th harmonic to both natal Node and progressed Sun. Transit Neptune (ruler of 9th) is conjunct natal Moon (ruler of Asc).
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« Reply #8 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
[continued from posting above:] by Lea Breuer
 
By the beginning of June, 1998, Progressed Sun (15 deg Taurus) hits the Aries Axis, activating all the natal pictures on that axis. Progressed Pluto is also 3 minutes from this axis (7Vir33).  
Pr Sun = Aries Point = n Mc = Mars/Poseidon (religious activity, morality, value system)= Mc/Saturn (taking over a duty. A serious personality) = Node/Cupido (Social organization. Associated with a community)= Hades/Admetos (Karma. Sagging living standards)= Mars/Kronos (The great leader and organizer) = Uranus/Cupido (Unusual community formed suddenly)= Mc/Mercury (monologues or soliloquies. Reputation. Opinion. Judgement about. Meditation)= Mercury+Poseidon-Sun (Spiritual conception of being. The spiritualizes thinking. Religious communicator)= Cupido+Vulcanus-Sun (A member of a powerful community. The man who has great influence through his art)= =Asc+Mercury-Poseidon (Connected with other people by thoughts, ideas and talking of religion or talking on the media)= Mc+Poseidon-Asc (To fuse one's ideas with those of others. The divine spark in a man)= Mc+Asc-Admetos (To have firmly established relations to other people)= Moon+Apollon-Admetos (Many hours in contentment) .  
3. People complain about computerized chart readings giving contradictory readings, but this man has lived a very contradictory life. He has swung from wild ostentation to sincere devotional simplicity. Can you find both sides of the personality in the chart?  
There is the important axis consisting of the tight Jupiter/Kronos square (Big money Man), versus the other important axis consisting of the Saturn/Hades tight square (great loss, severe poverty, illness), versus the most prominent pictures on the Aries axis. Each side of the personality comes into the foreground when its natal axis is activated by progressed lunar phases or personal points hitting the axis by progression. Personal Points are : Aries Point, Mc, Asc, Moon and Node.  
WOW !!! This chart is an excellent example for demonstrating the efficiency of combining Progressed lunar cycles (and lunar phases) with Uranian techniques !!!
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« Reply #9 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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With his Sun conjuncting his Midheaven, M.C. Hammer is a person who first and foremost wants to be somebody.  
Having his Moon only 3 semi-octiles away from his Sun, harmony between the "inner" and "outer" persons is also important to him.  
His Venus trines his Uranus - Venus/Uranus aspects are so prevalent in musician's charts that I call Venus/Uranus the "rock 'n' roll" aspect.  
The key to his swings from excess to religious devotion lies in his Sun and Moon both aspecting Jupiter.  
Since his fortunes began to wane in 1992 (the year people began getting tired of him due to "overexposure"), I did his Sidereal Solar Return for that year, using Oakland, California, as the location (March 30, 1992, 4:34:44AM PST). SSR-92 Saturn makes a PERFECT sextile to the SSR-92 Midheaven. This is the year the brakes get pressed! Also, speaking of Saturn, Hammer's '92 SR happened not too shortly after his Saturn Return. SSR-92 Mars is only 3*18' from the Ascendant, it's not going to be pretty, either - both Natal and SSR Mars are near the Ascendant, pointing to a particularly severe Mars Return. SSR-92 Venus forms a T-Square to the MC-IC axis, indicating an impact on artistic endeavors. Natal Jupiter conjuncts SSR-92 Mars, and SSR-92 Jupiter conjuncts both Natal Pluto and the SSR Descendant. This combination indicates the role of personal excess in the attack to come. Finally, SSR-92 Moon is also in the foreground, close enough to Natal Jupiter and SSR Mars to form a triple conjunction.  
I compared the 1992 SSR to the Tropical 1992 return (3/29/1992, 6:12:08 PST, Oakland, CA). In the TSR, the foreground planets are the Sun, SR Mercury, SR Uranus, and the SR Lunar Nodes. While these SR planets respectively point to ego issues, media attention, upheaval and new responsibilities, the planets which so clearly pointed to the nature of the upheavals (Natal and SSR Mars & Jupiter, and natal Pluto) are in the background rather than the foreground. They merely hint at something brewing due to their 6th harmonic aspects to the angles, rather than their proximity to the Ascendant in the SSR. TSR Saturn makes a decile to the IC, but that's not as clear a warning as a sextile to the MC, as in the SSR. And in the TSR, the SR Moon is nowhere near SR Mars or Natal Jupiter. Since the Moon's location is crucial when the Sun "returns", it is discrepancies like this, along with the question of which SR and natal planets are angular, that makes correcting for precession so important.  
One can make similar comparisons between TSRs and SSRs in 1996 and 2000. TSR-96 (5:23:59PM, Oakland, CA) does accurately predict media attention, attacks, and restrictions (TSR & Natal Mercury, TSR & Natal Mars, and TSR Saturn in the foreground), but some key planets which are in the background in the TSR (Natal Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto and SR Uranus) are foreground in the 1996 SSR (3/30/1996, 5:03:22AM). Thus the TSR underestimates their role in another year of upheavals and negative transformations brought on by excess. Also, the Sun's presence in the foreground in the TSR is deceptive, as the Sun, which stands for the self, is in a weaker area in the 1996 SSR.  
Finally, I compared the TSR and SSR for the year 2000. Both happen shortly after the other important return, the Lunar Return, making the Y2K SR a very important one. In this year's TSR (3/29/2000, 4:58:43AM, Oakland, CA), there are malefics in the foreground: starting with the ASC and going counterclockwise, we have Natal Black Moon Lillith, TSR Pluto, and Natal Mars. These planets are in more "cooperative" areas in the SSR (3/30/2000, 5:51:53AM). Moreover, while Venus is strong in both the TSR and the SSR, in the SSR the Sun conjuncts the Ascendant, and, being in the First House, is moving toward it. Clearly, the 2000 SSR has more accurately predicted the "rebirth" of M.C. Hammer for this year.
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« Reply #10 - on: 24.06.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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Answering the questions in inverse order, the wild swings relate in part to the ruling Moon in Aquarius (talented but crazy life-style), augmented by the semi-sextile from Jupiter, but more so to the four planets in Pisces. Pisces is the sign of true religion (charity, renunciation, and universal love) and the sign of material illusion and dependency (tobacco, drugs, alcohol). It is not hard for Pisces to experience both the highest highs and the lowest lows in the same lifetime. M.C. Hammer's religious (Neptune) comeback (Scorpio), or his return to his Christian family (fourth house) values (ninth house) correlates with the progressed MC exactly opposite (progressed IC exactly conjunct) Neptune (rules ninth) in the fourth in Scorpio in l997.  
Much of his rags-to-riches-to-bankruptcy-to-recovery saga can be followed with the pre-natal (converse) progression of the MC. The exact progressed angles have about a one-year validity span, during which time important events occur based on transits (which otherwise might not be particularly noteworthy). In l986, the pre-natal MC was at 86*Pisces conjunct Chiron. In spite of his rapping skill (Venus semi-sextile Mercury), this caused major record labels to diminish his potential and turn him down, but Pluto in direct opposition compelled him to persevere, and luck came as he sold records out of his car (sixth house ruled by Jupiter). The pre-natal MC was at 1*Pisces itself in l994, when he was negotiating a $25 million deal for three albums, but by this point he was abusing Jupiter's good fortune with seventeen cars and other perks of the high life. MC's MC finished this series of converse progressions opposite Uranus in l998, when he was the emcee of a radio talk show, and used Liquid Audio Player web-enabled technology to promote his songs.  
Progressions, of course, occur on and related to the natal chart, which has an exact Pluto-Chiron opposition and a Leo Uranus-Pisces Jupiter opposition, both forming one, big larger opposition within the second (money) and eighth (spouse's money, inheritance, bankruptcy, etc.) houses. With Venus in trine with Uranus and sextile with Jupiter, this configuration made him rich from a musical recording career first financed by his sports friends (Venus in tenth rules eleventh). But M.C. Hammer also has a Pluto inconjunct Sun-Saturn yod, making it hard for him to control money. When transiting Saturn parked near his MC/Sun for much of l996, this financial mismanagement led to a fall.
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« Reply #11 - on: 30.10.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Natal Predispositions: 1. MC = JUPITER/SATURN --- "Fluctuating Success" 2 .MC = JUPITER/NEPTUNE --- "a spendthrift or a squanderer,Harm or damage through thoughtlessness" 3. JUPITER = URANUS/PLUTO --- "The attainment of immense successes" 4. PLUTO = MARS/JUPITER --- "Brilliant successes"
Notice the involvement of PLUTO in 3 and 4 above. This Plutonian success was triggered in 1990 when directed PLUTO opposed natal MC and in 1994 when directed PLUTO opposed natal SUN. Once Pluto left the natal MC=SUN contact, SATURN and NEPTUNE showed their involvement in 1 and 2. In 1996, directed SUN opposed natal NEPTUNE and simultaneously directed MC squared natal SATURN corresponding to bankruptcy.
 Directed JUPITER contacted natal MC in 1997 August triggering 1 and 2 positively. JUPITER=URANUS/PLUTO also corresponds to "the pursuit of religious or philosophical objectives".
All quotations above are from Ebertin's COSI . These comments show that one can get astonishingly accurate results using only well established cosmic factors(SUN,MOON,Planets,NODE,ASC and MC) and their angular relationships (multiples of 45 degree only with tight orbs)without considering any hypothetical planets or asteroids.
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« Reply #12 - on: 31.12.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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He was more than just a <"black?"> bat boy for the Oakland Athletics. He was a member of management at that young age. The team's owner, Charles Finley, confided in him. Revealing the 165 degree aspects(quindeciles)in his chart illustrates his experience of success as a preteen. His Jupiter and Moon are quindecile his North Node and semi-sextile each other. Oakland won three straight world series while Hammer was there.
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« Reply #13 - on: 27.07.2005 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User stacey brewer
 
I think your Astrology charts do not predict what M.C. Hammer can do in the future. Astrology is condemned by God as it states in the Bible. I used to dabble in Astrology until I saw the light a few years ago and became a Christian. You can do what you want to do with it as I have no say in what you do on this internet site.
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« Reply #14 - on: 05.08.2005 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User sabrina
 
itz a classic case of that miserable piscean-aquarian brokeness...but of course, in the beginning itz just too good, u just have 2 spend...my suspicions were on...
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« Reply #15 - on: 18.08.2005 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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God is brought in due to the following:-ascendant lord in 12th house in south node star who in turn is with moon in 9th house of religion with saturn.Providence in 10th house with 12th lord also adds it's piece.In 1998 he (using Raman's ayanamsa) began providence dasa(jupiter)who in 10th house in north node's star who brings one back to his roots by being in turn in the 4th house.Not forgetting aquarius by nature is anything new thus even the method of preaching the Gospel via his music is shown.Mars association in 10th house as 12th and 7th lord shows the same.He is in jupiter's star thus adding vigour in the above.Before 1998 north node dasa(rahu) by being in 4th house in aspect to (via sign placement) to saturn,moon in 9th/10th (with ketu(south node) shows his attempting to "break away" from his beginings(roots).Rahu in mercury star who is in 11th with sun gave him riches.But deception is said to have occured due to same.Even though he is now devout,he will have his fair share of sufficient riches due to mars and jupiter being in the 2nd from the moon.But spiritual riches is his thing now(hopefully).To me the navamsa chart(also called the soul chart,9th harmonic,9th divisional chart)shows this.
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« Reply #16 - on: 04.12.2005 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Julien Peter Benney
 
Two charts on this site that should be compared with MC Hammer's are those of Tom DeLay and Pope Benedict XVI.
All three men have undergone a major transition in the middle of their lives, seemingly as if they have been swayed by a combination of sudden impulses regarding observations and deep feelings that had not been noticed for many years. In each case, when these two were combined, all three men moved towards a much more conservative viewpoint.
Moreover, apart from all having Aries Suns and Water Ascendants, Hammer, DeLay and Benedict XVI all have a predominance of the passionate fire and water elements and very little or no earth in their charts, suggesting that they are largely guided by ideals that they (as investigative journalist Penny Lernoux said of Benedict XVI in 1989) are not concerned at all with the mundane aspects of day-to-day living. This means, apparently, that a crisis could easily produce more radical changes in the way they think than it would with most people.
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« Reply #17 - on: 25.01.2006 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Timofey
 
This is all a bunch of doo hickey. MC Hammer is better than Vanilla Ice!
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« Reply #18 - on: 25.01.2006 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Landon Goebel
 
Word to your mother!
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« Reply #19 - on: 31.01.2006 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User chunky
 
I think mc hammer is cool and he is a asome rap dude he should be rembred for ever or at least i will he is my itle.
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