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« on: 29.06.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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Tiger Woods, born 30 December 1975 at 10:50 PM in Long Beach CA
 
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For Tiger Woods, 2004 was a mixed bag. He lost his #1 world ranking but married a beautiful woman whom he loves. This year started out well; Woods came in first in the Buick Invitational on January 20, 2005, and he is preparing to defend his title in the WGC - Accenture Match Play Championship on February 23rd. Whether he can regain his momentum remains to be seen, but win or lose, he remains a fascinating study. Let's look at his chart this week.
  • Tiger Woods is a young golf phenomenon, the likes of which the sport has not seen. Like other athletes Gauquelin studied, Woods' Mars is in the 9th house near the MC. What can we tell about Woods' style of athleticism from this particular Mars, in Gemini, retrograde, opposite his Moon?
  • Where else in this chart do you see his drive to win, his focus, discipline and his early rise to fame and fortune?
  • Just after he won his first Masters tournament, Tiger Woods immediately turned to his dad for an emotion-filled hug. His father Earl has been the young man's disciplinarian, teacher, friend, coach and ardent supporter. Astrologers have had differing views over which parent is represented by the 4th house and which is described by the 10th. In this chart, which house best represents his dad? What other astrological factors describe their close relationship
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re: Tiger Woods
« Reply #1 - on: 17.06.2002 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Laura
 
How interesting that both Tiger and Michael Jordan have a Mars retrograde in their charts. It has been said that Michael is one of the most competitive human beings on this earth. Perhaps Tiger's Mars in the ninth retrograde supports the Gaugelins' therory regarding superb athletes at that sector.
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« Reply #2 - on: 11.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Andrea
 
Sagittarius on the 4<sup>th</sup> house cusp indicates religious upbringing as well as travel; was his dad in the military? He has Pluto in the 1<sup>st</sup> house (like George W. Bush) and this gives him his strength. But Scorpio rules the 3<sup>rd</sup> house making me think he is at risk for drug addiction among his associates. His father tries to limit this however (Jupiter in the 7<sup>th</sup> opposite Pluto in the 1<sup>st</sup>). I see his frustration with his parent's philosophy may surface in the future (Chiron in Aries/Mars in the 9<sup>th</sup> house. He has Mercury in the 5<sup>th</sup>.Venus in Scorpio doesn't look good to me. What is he trying to get out of it all? But Mars in Gemini helps. It helps him, the air-sign influence, to bolster his mental concentration. AS for relationship with dad the ruler of his MC is Gemini, the ruler of which, Mercury is in the 5<sup>th</sup> house. So his dad comes from a line of confident people and is obsessed with the limelight and of course views golf as an entertainment form more than a sport. Sun in Capricorn-dad's obsessed with business, and as it's in the 4<sup>th</sup> house yes his religion is very much what made him. Saturn in the 11<sup>th</sup>: his mom and dad got along swimmingly as this house is ruled by Cancer. But Jupiter opposite Pluto can indicate a drug problem or worse. Chiron placed high in the chart indicates spirituality but a toughness as well to certain aspects in life...near the descendent, there are probably many things he could develop...the stellium in Scorpio is significator of drug problems...He has Mars in Gemini opposite the Moon in Sagittarius so sometimes his career conflicts with his ideals. Also a chauvinist. Can come to disrespect parents for depending on him so much. Mercury in Capricorn helps.
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re: Tiger Woods
« Reply #3 - on: 12.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Terese Hamilton
 
First, I disagree with Michael Bradford, who says that he believes Tiger's ascendant is sidereal Leo. This changes the navamsa chart (the real key to individuality) to a Sagittarius ascendant with Neptune in the first, the focus of an angular T-cross involving, Saturn, Moon and Pluto in mutable signs. That is not an athlete's chart or a famous person's chart either.  
Staying with the original birth time makes the navamsa ascendant Capricorn with Jupiter/Uranus/Mercury in the first. That's a much more suitable picture for a world famous golfer. The navamsa ascendant and these planets happen to fall on the natal Mercury (by sign), which many here have pointed out here is the source of Tiger's great precision and accuracy. So Mercury is the focal point of the natal chart because of the navamsa ascendant overlap.  
I think there's a lot to individual degrees or part-degrees that we aren't yet aware of. It happens that my daughter's Sun is only one minute from Tiger's Sun. She has always had enormous focus and was the type of person who could accomplish anything she wanted to. Also the highest planet in her chart is a 10<sup>th</sup> house Mars, similar to Tiger.  
Tiger's chart has a lot of sidereal fixidity, which doesn't show up in the tropical chart: The elevated Mars is in fixed Taurus (in the Indian equal house 10<sup>th</sup>), and the Venus-Neptune-Moon conjunction is opposing Mars from fixed Scorpio. So the focus on the 10<sup>th</sup> house Mars is all fixed. The navamsa chart has the 10<sup>th</sup> lord Venus conjunct the Sun and Mars in fixed Leo.
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« Reply #4 - on: 10.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Albert Stephens
 
A small Vedic contribution:  
Mercury represents buddhi, the faculty of discrimination (p. 24 of Light on Life, by DeFouw and Svoboda). His outstanding ability to select the next shot (among all the options), and his amazing concentration on executing it, is represented by Mercury (the very important Ruler of the Lagna) being in the 5<sup>th</sup> House (a very strong placement, reflecting his good karmas from the past). Mercury's in Capricorn (concentration) fully aspected by Saturn (concentration also). This is a strong, often constructive influence on his Mercury, since here Saturn is aspecting a sign it rules, and this would certainly enhance his power of concentration. This same Mercury is Vargottama (in the same sign in the Navamsa chart as the Rasi chart), giving it even more Capricorn focus. In the Navamsa chart, Mercury is also associated with the benefic, enhancing Jupiter, and rules the Navamsa 9<sup>th</sup> House (very strong). Notice also that Mercury rules the Rasi 10th House (the career), suggesting how very crucial his concentration wf the pr Mars' placement in the 9th House (a very strong "yang" signature), in the sign ruled by a 3<sup>rd</sup> House (courage) Venus, points to a strong competitive nature (and is likely inherited from Dad, though remember Venus is associated with the Moon here also). The lord of the Moon's sign is Mars, showing again the competitive and tenacious bent of his mind and presence (represented by the Moon in Vedic astrology). Mars, in addition, has an outrageously elevated Shad Bala score of 1.83! And along these same lines, note the Sun's Vimshopak score, a very unusually high 86! Both of these very unusual scores indicate his inherently feisty nature. The fact that the Lagna lord is in Capricorn also indicates his no-nonsense, unemotional and calculating killer instincts.
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re: Tiger Woods
« Reply #5 - on: 03.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Gene Ray
 
I've enjoyed looking at this chart and there are many gifts shown here.
  • Powers of concentration are shown by Mercury the mental ruler in Capricorn closely trine his Ascendant and particularly (being on the 5<sup>th</sup> House Cusp) regarding sports. They are further shown by the Suns mutual reception with Saturn. The mutual reception is a constantly overlooked aspect and will probably continue to be. The other mental ruler (accidental) is Pluto and Pluto is in the first (and has its own mutual reception with Venus who is located in the third near the cusp).
  • The mutual reception between Saturn and the Sun, both representing the father, until the Sun by progression reaches Mercury when Tiger comes into his own. Therefore it is the 4<sup>th</sup> House, which contains the Sun that most represents (as houses go) the father. The MR Of Sun/Saturn also shows the fathers projection of self into the dreams of Tiger and when the Sun by progression entered Aquarius (and therefore out of MR) this was a sign of a break of sorts between Father and Son.
  • I don't see much in the way of a "natural athlete" in the chart. I see dedication of a Father and love and push from the father, and hard work of both for Tiger's success. Various abilities are confirmed by the 7HJupiter sextile 9HMars trine 1HPluto sextile 3HNeptune. This forms a rectangle if one is not too judicious about the way it is drawn. There may be a name for this figure.... considering Tiger's fortunes I would call it a "Gift Box". In general, Tiger's father says Tiger has no rhythm ..can't dance and has a terrible singing voice so he was not blessed with everything. I note that the breakup with his girlfriend was shown by a Neptune (ruler of 7<sup>th</sup>) transit in Aquarius square to (its ruler) Natal Uranus. By direction Uranus is now conjunct the Natal Ascendant and this to has its effect. The breakup probably had to do with marriage or no marriage and perhaps financial agreements regarding that. Neptune ruling the 7<sup>th</sup>, in the 5<sup>th</sup>, square Uranus in the 2<sup>nd</sup> (money) and Uranus ruling the 5th. Also his progressed Ascendant has just left a semi square with natal Venus. Tiger's progressed ascendant as well as directed Uranus are in line with the rectangle or "Gift Box" so perhaps will see more spectacular fireworks at the British Open (Mars in the ninth and Jupiter involved). I would also note however that the conjunction of Uranus is in and of itself not usually an easy aspect and since Uranus rules the natal sixth and has a lot to do with accidents. Tiger should be very careful in this regard. If other things concur Tiger will probably marry someone who is in some way the image of his mother (race, religion or other) while transiting Neptune is trine his Natal Pluto in the 1<sup>st</sup>.
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« Reply #6 - on: 03.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User John Little
 
Brief analysis of Tiger Wood's chart using Midpoints and narrow-orb aspects involving multiples of 22.5 degrees, i.e. 16th harmonic aspects: Conjunction, Opposition, Square, Octile (aka semisequare) and Semi-Octile. In the Midpoint system, the use of traditional Houses and Signs, as well as other 'major aspects' such as Trines, Sextiles and Quincunxes, are usually deemed not necessary.
  • What did he get from his chart to give him such extraordinary powers of concentration?
 
The important Mars semisquare Saturn aspect in Tiger's natal chart (orb 1.27) seems rather wide and detached from the chart in general, but it <b>does</b> accurately describe so much of what we know of Tiger's character and upbringing, especially his ambitious/domineering/controlling father.  
However, Tiger's Sun occupies the **exact** midpoint of MA/SA (orb 23'), and thus, Mars and Saturn - already in close aspect - play a central role of importance in this man's chart. It is a potent and telling midpoint combination. Mars-Saturn perfectly describes Tiger's legendary powers of ambition, his concentration and his self control, some would say to the point of an almost android-like detachment. Also, it describes his shrewd business acumen, his conservatism and the sense that he has "an old head on young shoulders". Unkindly, some might also add, it describes Tiger's relentlessly predictable personality.  
To borrow briefly from traditional astrological terminology, Sun occupies the apex of a T-square with Mars and Saturn, except this is in the 16th harmonic [Sun is in 16H aspect to Saturn (orb 21') and also to Mars (orb 1°06')]. Traditional T-squares, Yods and Grand Trines express in the chart so powerfully because, when narrow enough orbs are involved, the planets involved in such formations form close midpoint combinations, regardless of whether the astrologer uses midpoints!  
I don't know much about Tiger's childhood, except that his father was an unusually strong influence upon his development as a golfer. However, the midpoint astrologer would *instantly* hone in on the central role of Mars-Saturn with Sun in Tiger's chart. This combination invariably denotes a childhood in which the father was controlling, domineering, ambitious and sometimes emotionally or even physically absent. Father is often a strict disciplinarian, and is sometimes from a military or police background.. Or the father had the sort of character that *would* have been suited to such careers! In this combination one eloquently sees Tiger's father's single-minded ambition, being realises through his son. And as the old adage has it, "like father, like son."  
Interestingly, one can't help but notice that in 2001, a powerful Uranus transit will be 'zapping' this incredibly stable SU-MA-SA complex in Tiger's chart. Starting in April 2001, Uranus simultaneously semisquares Sun, and sesquiquadrates his MA/SA midpoint.  
The symbolism of this combination is compelling: a fortress that's breached, solid foundations that are rocked by an earthquake, the conservative individual who rebels, the predictible man who tosses away the rulebook, etc. What single act happened in April 2001 that one could characterise as sudden, unannounced, unexpected, unusual or possibly even controversial? I would expect that this transit could mark a rift or dispute with his father (rebellion...), and as such the full details may not become public knowledge.  
In July 2001, t.UR also stands in *exact* 8H aspect to Tiger's SU cnj MA/SA. Will July witness unusual behaviour on Tiger's part? Uranus transits often mean links with TV, radio and technology. Perhaps 2001 marks a significant development in Tiger's life in this regard: working as a golfing commentator, TV host, Internet supremo, etc.  
By the time Uranus has made its third and final 'pass' in early 2002, one suspects Tiger will NOT be the same person. Uranus always means awakenings. Symbolically, he may escape from his father's clutches in some manner, via marriage or emigration. In extreme situations, such a Uranus transit can mean the physical death of father, although the most likely manifestation in a younger man is probably not a *physical* but a *symbolic* change in the father-son bond. (During Jan & Feb 2001, an almost stationary Saturn "sat on top' of Tiger's SU cnj MA/SA ... one might conjecture that these months were somehow strained for Tiger, perhaps due to health (problems with skeletal system, tendons, bones etc) or due to worry or pressure emanating from the direction of his father). <ol start="2">
  • [i]Tiger has been groomed as a golf prodigy by his dad since before he could walk.
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    « Reply #7 - on: 03.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    [continued from posting above:] by John Little
    Does his tight relationship with his Dad show in the 4th house or 10th house?[/i]  
    Neither: see 1. above. <ol start="3">
  • Some claim that Tiger is a new breed of golfer. Golf has been the sport of the rich; Tiger is a natural athlete playing golf. Where is natural athlete written in his chart?
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    Is 'athlete' the correct word? In the same sense as sprinters, footballers, boxers and Tour de France cyclists are athletes? Perhaps not! 'Strategists' might be a more accurate word to describe golfers, chess players and ten pin bowling champs! An interesting midpoint in Tiger's chart is that Mercury is conjunct Jupiter/Uranus (ME cnj JU/UR).  
    This is invariably the hallmark of the genius. One finds this midpoint in the charts of inventors, engineers, technicians, scientists, etc. Tiger's displays an almost 'scientific' insight into the way he must play a hole; one can almost here the microchips in his head whirring. Jupiter/Uranus also suggests all those lucrative contracts with TV, technology, advertising and product placement, which apparently is something Tiger applies himself to with an ambition that almost matches his golfing ambition.  
    As for Tiger's relationship with his mother: Moon in Tiger's chart is in 16H aspect to Venus (orb 1°21'), 16H aspect to Jupiter (36') and 8H aspect to Uranus (1°02'). Moon is in semisquare to his Venus/Jupiter midpoint (23'). The midpoint astrologer would instantly identify these as the hallmarks of a highly positive relationship with mother, and by extension, with a happy childhood and an emotionally optimistic personality.  
    Perhaps Tiger can be said to have had the best of both worlds
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    « Reply #8 - on: 03.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Michael Bradford
     
    Before we can delineate Tiger Woods' Vedic / sidereal chart, we must first verify his ascendant, as the sidereal sign on the horizon changed from Leo to Virgo about 4 minutes before the stated birth time. Given this very short span of time and the potential for a few minutes error in the recording process, it would not be unreasonable to assume that the Leo ascendant is the correct one. As Vedic astrology is very much house-based in its methodology, the ascendant is all-important with regard to how a chart is interpreted.  
    On comparing the two possible charts, it would appear that the Leo rising one is far more appropriate for someone of TW's stature. For example, he has been in a Venus life cycle or dasha since 1984 and Venus is the ruler of the 10<sup>th</sup> house of career (the major focus of his life during this time) only in the Leo rising chart. Even his nickname - 'Tiger' - inclines towards the likelihood of the Leo chart.  
    With regards to concentration, the Vedic system holds the Moon to represent the instinctive or emotional aspect of the mind, and Mercury to represent the intellect or cogitating aspect. Therefore Mercury would be the planet having most to do with focus and concentration. Mercury is in Capricorn, a sign of Saturn and is in mutual aspect with Saturn, the planet most associated with firmness, steadiness and control. In addition, Mercury sits in the 'dhruva' or fixed lunar mansion of Uttara Ashada (26-40 Sag - 10-00 Cap), adding even more steadiness to its nature. This asterism has ten deities associated with it -- the Vishvadevas -- four of which are named for Willpower, Skillfulness, Firmness, and Peak (as in acme), all of which are most appropriate with regard to TW's mental state. The Saturnian influence is compounded even further by the fact that Mercury sits in Capricorn also in the 3<sup>rd</sup>, 4<sup>th</sup>, 5<sup>th</sup> and 9<sup>th</sup> divisional or harmonic charts.  
    The Leo ascendant also indicates very clearly his relationship with his parents. The father, especially in the areas of guidance and higher learning, is held by many Vedic astrologers to be a 9th house matter. In TW's chart, Mars is not only the lord of the 9<sup>th</sup> house of father, but also of the 4<sup>th</sup> house of mother, making it all-important in terms of parental influence. The fact that Mars is situated in his 10<sup>th</sup> house of career clearly indicates that his parents will have a major impact on that area of his life. His relationship to his parents is enhanced even further by the fact that Mars is a mutual great friend of 1st lord Sun.  
    Mars is extremely potent in TW's chart for 4 reasons.
    • It is powerful by virtue of the fact that it is retrograde, and  
    • because it gets directional strength from its position in the 10<sup>th</sup> house.  
    • It forms a powerful royal yoga with Venus (9<sup>th</sup> and 10<sup>th</sup> houses, the best possible), and is itself a royal yoga forming planet (Raj Yoga Karaka) as it rules the 4<sup>th</sup> and 9<sup>th</sup> houses.
    • Is supremely influential because it aspects the 1<sup>st</sup> house by its special fourth house aspect and 1<sup>st</sup> lord Sun by its special 8<sup>th</sup> house aspect.
     
    With regards to being a natural athlete, physical, energetic, combative Mars aspecting the 1<sup>st</sup> house / 1<sup>st</sup> lord is a very clear signature for an athlete in Vedic astrology. In addition, the predominant planets in his chart are his 1<sup>st</sup> lord Sun and powerful Mars, the two kshatrya or warrior planets, making him a fierce competitor. To add to this already strong sense of competitiveness, 1<sup>st</sup> lord Sun sits in the fierce (ugra), aggressive lunar mansion of Purva Ashada (13-20 - 26-40 Sag), noted for its combativeness, patience, and desire to win. But the fact that these planets are in friendly signs and good houses (5<sup>th</sup> and 10<sup>th</sup>), and rule good houses (1<sup>st</sup>, 4<sup>th</sup> and 9<sup>th</sup>), ensures that these tendencies will manifest in a positive, rather than a negative or destructive way i.e., the consummate athlete.
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    « Reply #9 - on: 03.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Eleanor A. Buckwalter
     
    Tiger Woods' apparent calmness is probably thanks to Pluto (god of invisibility) in his first house. Pluto may also contribute to his powers of concentration, although that talent is due to Mercury in Capricorn aspected by Saturn (out-of-sign opposition). Mercury/Saturn contacts tend to give the ability to focus and concentrate, especially when Mercury is in Capricorn or Scorpio. And, Scorpio is on the cusp of the third house of the mind as well.  
    The Sun in Capricorn in the 4th house indicates that house is, for Tiger, the house of "father." Both Sun and Saturn are significators of  "father," and Saturn in Leo repeats the theme of a proud parent who trains his offspring to perfection. In addition, if the 4<sup>th</sup> represents "father," then the 5<sup>th</sup> from the 4<sup>th</sup>, the 8<sup>th</sup>, represents "father's son". Aries is on the 8<sup>th</sup> cusp, it's ruler, and Mars is in the 9<sup>th</sup> near the Midheaven -- a famous sports figure.  
    The Mars near the Midheaven is a signature of the professional athlete according to the Gauquelins' research.
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    « Reply #10 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User R.J.
     
    Tiger Woods is not only an amazing athlete and golfing professional, but is an excellent role model for all young kids (a rare quality among pro. athletes, today). His relatively "clean" public image gives him a universal appeal transcending all races and backgrounds therefore, he is the perfect spokesman for the game of Golf. It could also be argued that through Wood's influence, he has personally made the game more attractive to all groups, particularly young blacks and urban "inner city" kids all over the world.
    • <b>Concentration abilities:</b> Golf is a game that requires a high amount of skill, with respect to precision and accuracy. Tiger has a Virgo ascendant and the chart ruler and Midheaven ruler being Mercury (in Capricorn) would describe his extraordinary ability to focus on his putting and deliver them under pressure. Virgo rising also gives him a grounded, analytical mentality, without the image of arrogance or "cockiness." I once did a study of major league baseball players and I noticed that "Virgo" seems to be prominent in the charts of these ball players. (Baseball is actually very similar to golf, in that you try to hit a white round ball with a "stick" or club, as far as possible!) Meanwhile, in 1976, I once attended an astrology workshop held by the late Isabel Hickey in Boston and I met a gentleman who claimed to be a former "pro." baseball player with the old Negro Leagues. A big tall guy with a very easygoing manner (his name I've forgotten). Back then; I thought it was highly "unusual" to see a former pro ball player at an astrology workshop, but then, why not! Anyhow, he showed me his birth chart and I remember he had a stellium of planets in Virgo! He also had studied astrology and was familiar with his natal chart. I told him that with all those planets in Virgo, he was probably a tough guy to "strike out" at the plate and he confirmed he was known to have a good batting eye! Meanwhile, I found out that gentleman was later nominated to the Baseball Hall of Fame! So I guess he was a pretty good ball player! Back to Tiger - many who have watched Tiger Woods play in person also remark on how unbelievably consistent he is in making "difficult" shots and his focus and accuracy is amazing, indeed. With Pluto (the ruler of his Scorpio 3rd house) located in the 1st house and trining Mars conjunct the Midheaven, Woods no doubt utilizes a lot of psychology (i.e. visualizing) to prepare for his game and typically, a person with Pluto rising is very good at "mastering" both the mental and the physical around them. (Pluto is also said to "rule" things like psychology and the behavioral sciences). However, in my observations, people with natal Mars in Gemini, however, are not always so keen about spirituality and meditation. I think the reason for that is they get "impatient" about it - I think Woods is a Buddhist by nature but there may be some aspects to religion in general that he indeed may find uncomfortable. The Mars/Neptune opposition in his chart may further confirm that. Tiger's natal Mercury makes a close opposition (180 degree) aspect to Saturn, showing further abilities to concentrate, as well as a "perfectionist" attitude in his day job. Typically, people with Mercury/Saturn aspects are the "one-track mind" types...and usually, if the occasion demands it, they will work well into the wee hours while the rest of us are sleeping! The "bad news" of this aspect is not so good for relationships - I would imagine Woods tends to be highly selective in his friendships and female company. The other end to this is, Tiger is a "busy guy;" golf is a game that involves a lot of travel and touring, so it's probably hard to maintain even a good relationship at the best of times. Since the Moon is angular in his chart, he'll likely marry at some point in his life, but perhaps later on. The Moon in Sagittarius doesn't usually like to get married early (if at all). I agree with a previous writer to this section that his married life may not be smooth/and or easy. But, Woods will eventually marry and it will be a significant event in his life. <li value=3><b>Where is the natural athlete in his chart?</b> Natal Mars elevated in a Gauquelin sector (in the 9th house) conjunct the Midheaven (career, reputation). Mars is sextiling natal Jupiter, indicating athletic ability and the good fortune to hit to "jackpot" (he has certainly done that, money wise!) Woods is also one of the most desirable endorsement models and public speakers, out there, and commands one of the highest endorsement fees (if not the highest).
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    « Reply #11 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    [continued from posting above:] by R.J.
    Natal Mercury (chart ruler) in sextile to natal Venus is another indicator of financial reward, through career. After his retirement from golf, he may turn to public speaking, broadcasting or teaching in a semi-retirement mode, but will continue to travel the globe as a goodwill ambassador to the game of golf.
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    « Reply #12 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Natori Moore
     
    The classically controlled Sun-Pluto square contributes to Tiger's tight self-regulation and suggests that challenges in developing his self-mastery came from his father (square to Sun). Mercury in Capricorn alone would suggest disciplined mental powers; add a Mercury opposition to Saturn and he's really on the straight and narrow. Since Mercury also rules his Virgo ascendant, Tiger's steady mental regulation is quite visible to the public. Overall, I find his chart a fine example of the effective use of Saturn. Transiting Pluto conjoining Tiger's Sag Moon and Capricorn planets in the years ahead ought to be mighty interesting.
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    « Reply #13 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Frank Kennedy
     
    As far as the natural ability is concerned. I remember an old Boston astrologer, Oscar Weber who told our class 30 years ago that those baseball players who were involved in the All Star games frequently had Mars-Jupiter aspects. Mars ruling sports and Jupiter of course ruling awards. I found that it was true when I checked it out with other major league baseball players. My son has it. He managed to collect plaques, awards and trophies growing up playing many sports. He also captained 3 sports in high school and was MVP as well in those 3 sports. I can assure all of you that it was destined to be from his chart and not from his gene pool.  In addition, I find in my readings that others who have this aspect (especially the sextile) are usually active in sports and usually have received awards, accolades, and/or trophies as a result of their prowess in athletics.
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    « Reply #14 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Cosmos007
     
    TIGER001 Sunday, July 1, 2001, EDT 6:48:33" PM  
    I don't play golf, nor am I a particular fan of the game, but I do admire Tiger Woods and his parents for the fine contribution to our society they each in their own way have made in today's world. I am particularly impressed with one of the websites mentioned in AstroDatabank's listings of those where he is mentioned. Especially "The First Church of Tiger": www.tigerwoodsisgod.com/history.php
      Now, that, is my challenge, herein, for an Astrological justification. AstroPro asks as:
    • <b>What gives Tiger his 'most', powers of concentration</b>..........the Moon of our Vedic Philosophers in his natal 3rd house conjunct his Nadir, or his natal 5th house (the house of 'Legacy')? Mercury, that turned retrograde at his progressed age of 15+- @ Aquarius 9:17.6'. That degree alone tells us a Celestial tale .... Having progressed to the 10th degree, the Sabian Degree spoke: "A Man Who Had For a Time Become The Embodiment Of A Popular Ideal Is Made To Realize That As A Person He Is Not This Ideal."......the KeyNote: "The need to deal with human beings as persons rather than as screens upon which one projects one's dream and ideal."...........The KeyWords: "Self - Revaluation." At progressed age 15, it stopped (Retrograde), & began applying backwards to read: "A Flag Is Seen Turning Into Aa Eagle."........The KeyNote to read:..."The dynamic incorporation of new social values in individuals who exemplify the spiritual potential and greatest significance of these values", the KeyWords: We have here the.."Acting Out" of the vision.' This speaks to his natal 3rd house Neptune at this degree in his birth chart, and a part of the "Universal Evolutionary Intentions", ----Retro gradations & Secondary Progressions of his 'essence-of-a-moment-of-time'. (More about this later!)...........Neptune's natal Sabian Keyword is "Retribution"! To reply to AstroPro: .....My response is Neither, the Moon nor Mercury, even while they both lend themselves to the thoughts of his powers of concentration, the main culprit is his natal retrograde, 11th house, (Astrology, Social Reforms, Friends, Hopes & Wishes, Aspirations, etc.), Saturn, (concentration, etc.), in Leo! Especially in it's Gibbous Phase (175:19' orb) to 5th house Mercury...(Search for Techniques that will work in life!) ..... Which became a "Revelation" at his progressed age of 15+-. (Opposition). That addresses most aptly his talents at paying attention. His parents saw to that. (More about that Rx. Saturn, later, too!)  
    • <b>Which natal House would suggest his closeness to his Dad</b>, my choice would be the 10th, Gemini (24th degree), which housed only his Earth in Cancer, the 9th degree.....The Sabian, "A Small, Naked Girl Bends Over A Pond Trying To Catch A Fish",....the KeyNote reading: "The first naive quest for knowledge and for an ever-elusive understanding of life.".... The KeyWords ........"Purity In Understanding.".........the Rudhyar further description of that degree is very enlightening. Especially as it relates to his friendships with the likes of Michael Jordan and other like-minded friends.  
    • <b>Where is the symbolism of his natural athletic abilities in the chart?</b> ...that is the easiest of them all. His Retrograde Mars, (Hyleg!), in the 9th house of social beliefs, philosophies, social truths that serves his so well in his public Career, reputations, higher mind, etc., etc., etc., which also lends itself to the question of his powers of concentration, and perhaps to the question of his Dad's influences, as well as further reference to that 'Universal Evolutionary Intent', I mentioned earlier (Retro gradations). The Sabian is equally entertaining,....Gemini 17 degrees = "The Head Of A Robust Youth Changes Into That Of A Mature Thinker."......the KeyNote: "The transformation of physical vitality into the power to build concepts and intellectual formulations through which knowledge can be transferred."............The KeyWords "Mental Metamorphosis." My hope is that AstroPro demonstrates the many, many valid Geocentric Logics, that all Philosophers of the Stars share with all of us, I trust my own will prove as entertaining. Now, my real Astrological challenging Question addresses that earlier comment of the Universal Evolution, that is reflected all the time, in our prior-birth, Progressions, and our current Transits, including all of the current ...."Retro gradations"! I will share the two main symbols in this matter. 9th House, Mars in Gemini, whose conjunction with the transiting Sun.
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    re: Tiger Woods
    « Reply #15 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    [continued from posting above:] by Cosmos007
    Prior-to-birth, October 14, 1974, GMT12: 58' @ Libra 20:48:02", a first House, conjunction to the Pars Fortune, (Same degree) T/Pluto (12th), T/Moon (1st), T/Ascendant all @ the same 8th degree of Libra, and interestingly the M.C. @ his natal Earth position.........co-incidence, of course, ..... Ha! Thus began a solution for the needs of our Universe that manifests with the ultimate Co-Creator, "Tiger Woods"! The Sabian Symbol tells of 'attunement to the most basic rhythms of existence'. Still, before birth the First Qtr. Square, 'Challenges From/To the Surroundings', .... a 6th house of 'Self-adjustments', 'improvements', etc. transiting Sun @ Virgo 12:56' (13th degree speaks of "charisma",......September 5, 1975, 8:36' PM PDT, there in Long Beach, still before birth. Then transiting Mars makes its Rx. Station @ Cancer 2:39.8'..November 6, 1975..."A Testing Of The Will",.......... applying back to "Elevation", ....still later to open the natal 'Gibbous' Phase ("Challenges to find the 'techniques' that work in the situation"), and even to complete the 'Unconscious', instinctual, very subjective, first half of it's Cyclic Relationship to the Sun, with the opposition ("Revelations"), just before birth, transiting Sun in the First house of 'self-identity, appearance, self image, confidence, etc.,@ Sagittarius 22:58' ("Transition"), with Rx. Mars in the 7th House of 'others', objectivity, the public, partners, etc., etc., etc. Mars applying to the 22nd degree of Gemini......"Bio-Energetic Rebuilding",.......(President Bush's birthday- Senior, btw!).................then birth shortly thereafter. An interesting perspective can also be seen as the "Sabian Orbs" involved @ his birth, Mars Rx. to his natal Sun. 201:24' degrees.....that point (the Orb alone) reads in Robert Blaschke's new book, page 218, Libra 22 (201-202 angular separation) 'separating waning quadnovile', as: "A Child Giving Birds A Drink At A Fountain'"......."the concern of simple souls for the welfare and happiness of less-evolved beings who thirst for life renewal." It is interesting to note that that is the very same degree of the original conjunction of the transiting Sun to the transiting Mars, before birth! ....another co-incidence.....Ha! Natal Rx., 11th House, Saturn has an equally interesting Sabian Degree Celestial Adventure to share with us, as does the Solar/Lunar Eclipses immediately before birth that would lend themselves to this tale, but suffice I share with you merely the Astro details. The transiting Sun conjoined the transiting Saturn, Sunday, June 30, 1974 GMT 12:11' @ Cancer 22:30:11", a 12th House of Ultimate, Universal, Truths, btw....The Celestial message was "A Meeting Of A Literary Society",........The KeyNote:...."An objective and critical approach to the common factors in our culture and to its psychological problems."..... The KeyWord is "Intellectualization." The First Qtr. Square Challenges, from the Surroundings, before birth, occurred October 26, 1975 GMT 4:34' (adjust for PDT), was an 11th House Sun conjunct Uranus exact, (Astrology & Social Reform in Spades?), to a 9th House of Social Beliefs Saturn @ Leo 2:38'. (With the North Node in the 12th makes it kinds deep!) Then Saturn make it's Rx. Station @ Leo 2:58.5' on November 14, 1975, GMT 18:01', a 7th House type of life experiences. (Still Rx.) It moved to open the Gibbous Phase at the Sesquiquadrate, just before birth, December 10, 1975, GMT 2.14' (adjust to PST, 9th @ 6:19' PM) Exactly the same House positions as found for the Sun/Mars final Phase open...This 'Searching for a Technique' held a First House Rx. Saturn with the Sun, a 6th House situation. These Celestial 'tools' tell us 'What + How + Where + Why' we can most effectively contribute to our purposes this time around. It's all part of the Grand Design, which I refer to as our "Universal Evolutionary Intentions". Tiger is a fine example of it all. Later,....Affectionately,.....Trines,...Cos.
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    « Reply #16 - on: 01.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Kellia Ramares
     
    Natural Athlete: First let me say that I use 10 degree orbs for conjunction, opposition, trine and square, 6 degrees for sextile and 3 for in conjunct.  
    I also participate in baseball and football rotisserie leagues and one time checked some of those athletes astrologically. I notice professional athletes often have Mars Pluto contacts. Of the six currently on your list Woods has the trine, Earnhardt the square, Rose the opposition, and Chamberlain the conjunction. Thorpe lacks this combination, but it is interesting to note that he is a swimmer and has Mars conjunct Neptune. O'Neill doesn't fit the pattern either, but he has Mars in the first house with Aries rising and the Moon in 8th House Scorpio disposited by Mars and Pluto, and Pluto in his 6th house of work.  
    I think that for Pro Athletes, Mars confers the physical strength and Pluto the competitive intensity that allows them to soar above the rest of us "weekend warriors."  
    Woods also has Mars in the Gauquelin sector for athletic champions.
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    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Jonathan Dunn
     
    This newsmaker has 1996 TL66 partaking significantly in the hard aspect pattern involving the ASC, MC and the Moon: <pre>MC 23:56 Gemini ASC 24:25 Virgo Moon 22:23 Sagittarius 1996 TL66 22:51 Pisces Perseverantia 8:26 Capricorn Sun 8:57 Capricorn</pre>
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    « Reply #18 - on: 01.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Southern Cross
     
    Capricorn, Sun and Mercury show disciplined ambition and mental toughness. Tiger's "killer instinct" (cover title of June 18th Newsweek), however, goes beyond this and his mother's meditation techniques to fuse body, mind, and spirit in a driving determination to be the best. Tiger and other sports "dominators possess uncommon emotional control and unlimited reservoirs of passion" (Newsweek). This caged concentration waiting to be unleashed on the links comes from powerful first-house Pluto which is part of a Mars-Jupiter-Neptune box configuration and a Sun-Jupiter T-square.  
    To answer the rest of your first question, I am a Western astrologer, but the Moon rules the mind rather than Mercury (see our AstroDatabank comments on Paul Hogan). There are good etymological reasons for this, but the best explanation to me is the important but seldom-made distinction between the pure-energy eternal monad (Leibnitz) spirit which returns to God (Ecclesiastes 12:7), and the denser non-eternal ghost spirit (mind, anima) or soul (Ezequial 18:20), reported to sometimes wander in strange places. Basically, the "mind" is the Moon-principle, which like the larger ovum envelops and transports the smaller monad or Sun-principle.  
    The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that human bioenergy can neither be created nor destroyed, and Plato discussed the soul's process of transformation at some length in the "Phaedo". This is esoteric hocus-pocus to positivists- learned fools who pretend what is yet unproved is forever improvable, and argue the "mind" is merely part of the brain's wiring. In 1977, however, leading expert John Eccles concluded there is a "ghost in the machine", i.e., mind exists independently of the brain. So reductionists have neither religious-philosophical tradition nor the future of serious research on their side. See also http://www.custance.org/old/adams/ch9a.html.  
    Having learned from raising three other children, his Green Beret officer father pushed Tiger into an early career (Mercury rules MC). Capricorn Sun in the fourth also shows his tough love at home, and the nearly angular IC Moon indicates his Mom was very important in Tiger's upbringing. His Dad therefore shows up in both the tenth and fourth houses, but the traditional MC=father and IC=mother still seems to apply. Kutilda met Earl Woods at the US-Thai Command in Bangkok, and Tiger's Sagittarius. Moon in third (sixth of tenth) reflects the father's workplace. First-house (tenth of fourth) ruler Chiron in Aries represents his maternal grandfather- a Thai military officer who criticized (Chiron rules Virgo) his daughter for marrying a "black". Sticking to derived houses, Tiger's white (Jupiter) blood should come from his father's father or mother's mother.  
    Athletic prowess relates to Mars and Sagittarius, and Tiger's elevated Mars opposes Sagittarius. Neptune and Sagittarius. Moon, whose dispositor Jupiter broadly conjoins Chiron in Aries. This diminishes his opponents in comparison to Tiger, but also means that marriage could hurt his career or vice-versa. The out-of-orb Grand Cross (Chiron square Mercury opposite Saturn square Uranus) indicates a possible risk of getting ripped off by wife, business partners, or opponents.
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    « Reply #19 - on: 02.07.2001 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
     
    reply by Astrodatabank Web User Alan Bitker
     
    • From where in his chart does Tiger get such extraordinary powers of concentration? Both Tiger's Ascendant and Midheaven are ruled by Mercury, which is in Capricorn in the 5th house closely trine to the Ascendant. Mercury opposes Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn. The contact of Mercury and Saturn produces what might be called the detached observer, who is studious and concentrated, yet calm and collected. In Capricorn, Mercury can offer a sense of rhythm and measured timing to Tiger's sense of discipline. Mercury trine the Ascendant enables all these qualities to be channeled into some form of movement and manual dexterity. Mercury's presence in the fifth house, whose ruler Saturn is in Leo, focuses Tiger's talents in the GAME of golf, in the daily PLAY, and in his infectious popularity with his audience.  
    • Does his tight relationship with his Dad show in the 4th or 10th houses? Tiger was born with the Sun in Capricorn in the 4th house. Both the sign and house placements stress the importance of his father in his life. That the Sun is at the focal point of a T-square with the opposition of Pluto and Jupiter testifies to the inescapable authority of Tiger's father in his life. Furthermore, Jupiter rules the 4th house and is in the relationship focused 7th house. Its opposition to Pluto in Libra adds to the complexity of this relationship. Also note that Jupiter is in Aries and is sextile to Mars, the ruler of Aries. Mars becomes the outlet for the tension of the T-square, providing further support for Tiger's athletic talent. It should also be noted that the Sabian symbol for Tiger's Sun in 8 Capricorn is: "An angel carrying a harp." Rudhyar speaks of the need to "flow with the universal current which,... , is the Will of God" and of mastering a "technique...of attunement to the rhythm of universal life." Well, it is obvious that as a child, Tiger's Dad filled the role of God, and challenged Tiger to be ambitious and willful, as the opposition of Jupiter and Pluto signifies. But as Tiger has matured, he has no doubt developed a more spiritual sense of attunement and inner harmony. His mother's religious influence also appears in the virtual conjunction of the Moon in Sagittarius and the 4th house cusp. This moon placement creates a mystic rectangle with the aforementioned Jupiter, Pluto, and Mars. The tradition of meditation to which Tiger was exposed by his mother, thereby becomes integrated into his golf game.  
    • Where is natural athlete written in his chart? The athletic focus of the chart is the presence of an elevated Mars in the latter degrees of the ninth house, applying to the Midheaven, and making contact with Jupiter, Pluto, and the Moon. Mars in Gemini strengthens the qualities of Mercury, noted above, that are so essential to being a talented golfer. The opposition of Mars to Neptune adds to his charisma and to his embrace by people all over the world.
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