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« on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Richard A. Gephardt, born 31 January 1941 at 5:00 PM in Saint Louis MO
 
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Dick Gephardt has built a political campaign and life strategy around the premise that "nice guys finish first." Gephardt is the quintessential nice guy. By contrast, Dean would probably not consider a speech successful if he didn't stir up some anger in his audience and his opponents. I even went to a web site that specialized in digging up dirt on politicians, and they had nothing on him. This is outstanding for a six-term congressman. So can a nice guy from the Midwest take the White House?
  • What drives him to build a life strategy around being such a nice guy? (No Libra in sight!!)
  • Why is health care his big issue?
  • Unlike Dean, Gephardt is a career politician. He's been in Washington for almost 30 years. What are the marks of a career politician in his chart?
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« Reply #1 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Does anyone have Dick Cheney's Jan. 30, 1941 chart? Would be instructive to see why these two men, born a day apart, are so different.
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« Reply #2 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Click for [was_link]Dick Cheney's astrology chart[/was_link] or look for Dick Cheney in our [was_link]Newsmaker Index[/was_link]. Web Admin AstroDatabank
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« Reply #3 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Asir Ajmal
 
The nice guy is Uranus and Saturn-Jupiter in Taurus in the Tenth. The Cardinal Sun -ASC/Pluto - Saturn/Jupiter T-Square gives his chart enough drive to keep him in washington. Venus in capricorn Grand trine Uranus & Neptune and Moon in the eighth signify his interest in health care. Mercury square uranus should facilitate mass communication. Whether he can make it in this primary looks doubtful given the current planetary influences transiting his chart.
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« Reply #4 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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1. Nice Guy...He has an Aquarius Sun(the chart ruler) in the 7th House, and sextile his Aries Moon...something tells me he knows how to compromise his wants and needs with those of others, and how to be all-around sociable and make people feel good about themselves...he doesn't have to have ALL of what he wants, he is happy with helping others get what they want and seeing him as a great guy...besides, he feels that he CANNOT have all that he wants, anyway, having that Saturn/Jupiter conjunction at the top of the chart, in Taurus, he is pretty much in chains...only by reaching out to others can he really feel free... 2. Health Care...without looking, I would guess that he himself must have problems with his circulation and major intestinal(colon) difficulties...the Sun in such a position would have him running around without much rest...he gets so much of his energy from his relations with others...Saturn rules his 6th and is in his 10th, in Taurus, with major squares, which screams out blockages of all kinds...a very heavy feeling, especially with Jupiter there...And as Pluto is forming one of those squares to Saturn, and is rising, he would have a special kind of passion about something in himself that he is helpless to change(like a big health problem), and feels so strongly about it, that he would want to try his hand at similar issues OUTSIDE of himself... 3. Career politico...you need a glad hand to be in politics...that would be his 7th House Sun in Aquarius(I note that Gephardt was born when F D Roosevelt was President--Roosevelt himself was a very strong Aquarius, whose birthday was the day before Gephardt's)...Uranus (the quick mind and tongue, fast response time) is in the 10th House, and very strong...Pluto is rising in Leo(as it is in the President's chart), makes him an effective leader(though those Taurus positions cool his blood, and sometimes stay his hand..he might be a lot more effective if he weren't so afraid of losing his position--perhaps one of the few sources of stability in his life)...Jupiter is so much tied to(literally) his career here, being conjunct the 10th and Saturn, always wanting broader and broader responsibilities, with the feeling that he can do more...biting off more than most can chew...
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« Reply #5 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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To Peter below-- Look at the sidebar to the right, and click on Cheney's name.
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« Reply #6 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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What do you mean no Libra in sight? A seventh house Sun and Mercury gives a decided undercurrent of Libra justice, balance, high ideals. As an Aquarian I believe we need an Aquarian president at this point. They are 'for the People.' Health care? Simple. He has Venus in the sixth of health, etc.with Neptune in Virgo forming beautiful trine and to the Taurus stellium of planets near MC. The exact trine of Uranus to Venus: He surely would revamp the health care system and with Moon in Aries plus the Aquarian Sun, he would be a pioneer and visionery regarding it.Saturn in tenth indicates a career of hard work, stability, perseverance, and ruling Capricorn Venus that trines the tenth is the political emphasis. Saturn and Jupiter elevated is powerful. Jupiter indicating an actor or politician when placed in tenth, first or aspecting MC. So many famous people with Leo strong as he has Leo rising: Arnold Swartznegger, Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Current president with Leo rising, and there are more, I am sure. Jupiter, Venus, Mars in Libra at time of election looks good as it forms trine to Aquarius Sun and Mercury AND sextiles ascendant in November. Neptune will be a degree past conjuncting Sun, a dream come true for Dick Gephardt? A spiritual leader elected? Dean's approach of stiring up his audience: classic Scorpio; dig, operate, get it out in the open. How will that sit in the White House? Nationally? Dick's Mars in Sagittarius is fortuitous for the handling of our current international involvements. FDR had similiar placements as Dicks; a Taurus Stellium, Sun,Mercury in Aquarius, A Virgo ascendant. Abe Lincoln was an Aquarian, so was FDR. Could Gephardt be the next great president? We need a visionery. My only worry, T. Saturn in his 12th at election time.With Saturn in the nation's chart in the second house,in its obscure period, heading towardsthe nadir, will anyone be able to solve what lies ahead? A running mate compatible to Dick would be Dennis Kucinich with a seventh house Sun in Libra compatible to Dick's Sun in Aquarius. His Aries ascendant compatible to Dick's Leo ascendant.Dicks Aries moon conjunct Dennis's Ascendant. Dicks three Taurus placements form beautiful ray to Dennis's Capricorn MC. Dick's Venus in Capricorn conjuncts Dennis's MC. The Air Suns combined with the earth elements in both make a nice pair for getting our country back on financial track and both are for the people and this nation. Just some thoughts.
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« Reply #7 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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Well, I don't know much about nice guy, but I believe that the conjunction of Chiron and Pluto certainly gives him a sincere interest in healthcare issues on a massive scale. This is of great interest to me, since I will be 55 in March. The conjunction is involved in a fixed T square including the 10th, 9th, 12th and 7th houses. I like this guy! He is tenacious in his way of dealing with things even if he appears to be bending. He may get my vote.
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« Reply #8 - on: 08.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User hazel twiggs
 
The part of fortune in the "birth chart" of the United States as given by Dane Rudhyar (http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/aad/aad_uschart.shtml) is 27 CAN 03. Gephardt's Chiron is retrograde in his 12th house at 27 CAN 29. According to this US natal chart calculation, which I know to be a hotly debated issue amongst astrologers every time a natioanl event comes up, Gephardt also has the US's sun and mercury in his 12th house. As this country has more than (ever) its share of skeletons in the closet, maybe if this man were to be our next president he could effectively heal us where we hurt and lead us to greater fortunes? Just a thought...
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Thanks Bill. But for being off one house, Dick Gephardt and Dick Cheney would have identical charts. How does the one house offset create such different men? Do they both follow in the tradition of Lincoln and Roosevelt as great Aquarians?
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« Reply #10 - on: 09.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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To Anon. below--- I would say that Gephardt is the more aggressive of the two, looking at the charts, as he has Leo rising, rather than the more decidedly conservative Virgo. Virgo is more the follower and the implementer. Not to say that Mr Cheney is in any way lacking in personality, and not to say that he is incapable of acting behind the scenes...(I note that they don't say much about Cheney in the news) Babies when they are born immediately identify with their surroundings and the events occurring in them, and this is very much what the Ascendant is about. An aggressive birth environment, where everyone is confident and productive, produces an aggressive and confident individual. A lot can change in a specific location in two hours. Also, the time of birth tends to reflect the parents' attitude and respect for the infant. You can either be prepared for the birth, or you can let it catch you off guard, and welcome the baby in a haphazard(but hopefully happy) way. This is all reflected in the Ascendant. Gephardt would probably identify more with his friendly, congenial nature than Cheney, not to say that Cheney is not congenial, but in Cheney's case, being among his fellows would be more work-related. There could be a strong difference here concerning doing things right(consistent with Virgo) and doing the right thing(given the Sun's rulership of, and his sextile with the Moon, in Gephardt's chart--Moon sextiles are always good at thinking intuitively). Cheney is conscientious, but I get the feeling that he prefers to work hard under someone else's strictures and let the big decisions(and moral questions) go to Congress.  
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Hmmm... you say there's "No Libra in sight", but Libra is indicated in this chart in other ways. Gephardt is an Aquarian with his opposite sign, Leo, rising. That opposition sets a life-long, Libran balancing act in motion- (take it from a Pisces with Virgo rising). Gephardt will be weighing the importance of individual leonine awareness with the need for an aquarian group consciousness and at some point there will be an insight that both points of view are needed. Additionally, his Chart Ruler, the Sun, is in his seventh house along with Mercury, which rules his second and eleventh houses respectively. His north node is in Libra, sextile to Pluto and in opposition to his Moon in Aries. It feels as if the transformative power of Pluto, which is trine his Moon, will help point him to his Libran North Node (and yes, the Aries Moon will always say "I gotta be me", but at least everything is more flowing this way). Gephardt has a Grand Trine in the earth houses- Neptune in Virgo in the 2nd, Venus in Capricorn in the 6th, and Uranus in Taurus in the 10th. He's going to want to take that Neptune in Virgo concern for health and have it manifest in a practical way that benefits the whole.
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1. What drives him to build a life strategy around being such a nice guy? (No Libra in sight!!)
Sun ruling the Asc in opposition in the 7th indicates his life is focused on others and that he organizes (Sun) it around communal/group needs.
His instinctive drive to lead (Moon in Aries) is fed by this need to shine in group situations (Sun in Aqu) and both needs work well together (Moon sextile Sun).
2. Why is health care his big issue?
Health matters are ruled by the 12th with Cancer on the cusp and the Moon in 9th house of philosophy, religion; connecting the concept of nurture, family (Cancer) with illness (12th) and a mindset (9th) that energizes him to take a leading role (Aries) to effect change. The Moon is trine its dispositor, Mars indicating his enthusiasm and zeal in connection with health matters.
3. Unlike Dean, Gephardt is a career politician. He's been in Washington for almost 30 years. What are the marks of a career politician in his chart?
Three planets: Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, in the fixed sign Taurus in the 10th house of public life/career with Saturn/Jupiter conjunct and square the Aquarian Sun in the 7th giving enormous drive connecting his desire to organize, be involved with groups and establishing a career.  
Saturn rules Capricorn on the 6th house of service indicating he prefers to serve (6th) the public (10th) within the sphere of well established social structures (Capricorn).
Venus in the 6th is partile trine Uranus in the 10th an indication his methods are somewhat unusual ... trying to be a 'nice guy' in the political arena could be considered somewhat radical<g>
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User estebon duarte CMA
 
The marks of a thirty year politician come up in different places. First his Sag. fifth house shows he enjoys himself at work, as the ruler Jupiter is in the tenth. This is reinforced by Mars rulership of the MC. So we see Dick likes to be involved in an aggressively charged, philosophical work environment. Further charged by personal integrity as Mars also rules the ninth (I use Alchabitius houses). The Saturn/Jupiter conjunction in the 10th trine the Asc. tells me that Dick is ambitious and idealistic in his work, reserved in his application of resources in an efffort to create authority as described by the Asc. In addition, Saturn rules the 6th with Venus contained within, creating a goal-oriented, determined desire toward career affairs.
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I consider Cheney's chart ruler to be Saturn in Taurus trine the asc degree. He has a prominent neck and the square to Sun indicates heart problems (and Saturn-Jupiter conservative views). For Gephardt Moon may be strong but Sun dispositor and angular (whole sign) well aspected Uranus probably stronger. In 10th it gives ambition and is trine to Venus (nice guy) and Neptune (left leaning). Neptune is in Virgo and Venus in 6th making health care a natural focus. As an Aquarius principled without being a conservative.
Chances of getting elected maybe not overwhelming, as the air element (Carter, Clinton, Kennedy, Roosevelt) is more typical of a centrist Democrat than his dominant earth element. He may possibly appear too small-minded and behind the times, not able to "charm" a crowd.
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User estebon duarte CMA
 
The Sun as ruler of the Asc. by sign and ruler of the ninth and MC by exaltation (Alchabitius houses) gives us a alternate view of his Primary Motivation and spiritual/professional views. Aquarius is known as a humanistic, socially observant sign. With the Sun opposed the Asc., these attributes desciribe Dick in his relations with others. They also work into his ninth and tenth house affairs as "health care" seems to be the typical social issue to use as a platform.
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Thanks everyone. Outstanding analysis all around!
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reply by Astrodatabank Web User Estebon Duarte CMA
 
Relating Gephardt to the other Dick's (Cheney) chart (they are a day apart) we find similarities, but there are core differences. While the need for Material security (Earth) is prevelent in both charts, the Primary Motivation (as described by the Asc.) in the two charts is entirely different. Gephardt seeks to achieve Authority and Recognition (Leo), maintaing a powerful, authoritative position in the world (Aries 10th/MC) while trying to aquire the ultimate Leo position! Cheney on the other hand has the double desire of Material need with Earth signs dominating the Asc/MC. The Primary Motivation in this Virgo Asc. is to maintain Material needs with bureaucracy and attention to detail. A fixed Taurean 10th creates a practical, value based professional life free from the egotistical drive seen in an Aries tenth.
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Isn't one of Dick Cheney's daughter also openly gay?
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« Reply #19 - on: 11.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Kathy Larson
 
Sun in 7th has a nice guy ring to it with the ability to weigh, balance and act with great diplomacy. Aquarius has everyones best interests at heart which goes along nicely with his thinking that we are all in this together as Mercury in Aquarius also in 7th and I suspect he is more of a rebel than he lets on.
Mercury rules his 11th - his peer group and those her chooses as associates are those who share his vision. As ruler of archetype 6th house, health and service, we see a man noted for health care reform and service to the people for his niche in world. Capricorn
Jupiter Saturn conjucnt in 10th, in Taurus, with Venus in 6th. He enjoys the challenge of political survival and the magnificent rewards and status. He likes the power also, with Pluto in aspect to Asc. He's not a man without demons but is a man who succeeds in conquering them.
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