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Astro-Databank: Ralph Nader
« on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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Ralph Nader, born 27 February 1934 at 04:52 AM in Winsted CT
 
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Reading the charts of public figures is much easier than reading for "normal" people because public figures use their charts so fully. Ralph Nader's chart is a good example of this principle. Quick inspection of the chart shows some easy examples of signatures for:
  • Dictating the terms of a more democratic state.
  • Investigative journalism.  
  • Taking on corporate giants.
  • Work-all-day Spartan lifestyle with no love interest to speak of.
 
But how many can you find? The rule of three says we should find at least three for each. If you've found previous Astro Challenges too challenging, here's your chance to contribute.  
Here's the advanced placement question:
  • What was going on in his chart in 1986 that could correlate with the loss of his brother and the Bell's Palsy that froze his face in such a way that he shed tears involuntarily? (An alternate stigma for a citizen saint?)
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re: Ralph Nader
« Reply #1 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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I agree with all of the above. Saturn in the first house tends to be disciplinarian, yet Venus there also gives him his sense of humor. Personally, I think he is one great guy and am wondering how our charts would interact. My birth data being 11-26-58 at 6:48 p.m. est Cleveland, Ohio.
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« Reply #2 - on: 01.11.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
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In the light of today's NY Times story about his refusal to yield support to Gore in the tight race, when approached about gun control, Roe vs Wade and other issues, his nodes, fixed rising sign and moon are interesting as they offset the mutable sun sign.. His longtime friend, editor of Public Citizen said "no, I wouldn't approach him on changing his mind. It would be a waste of time. Ralph is one of the most stubborn people in America."
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« Reply #3 - on: 31.01.2001 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Carlene Coppinger
 
As a proponent of the north and south nodes and their rulers being the focal point of a chart, I have based this analysis on that theory. Ralph Nader is a crusader of democratic reform, I feel, due to his north node of Aquarius resting in the house of Aries. Humanitarian, socially conscious ideals are typically Aquarian, and activism is associated with Aries at it's best (one's north node being his/her best quality). It seems that his investigative journalism results from his north node ruler of Aquarius in Aries receiving a square from his natal Pluto. Pluto, unable to accept matters at face value, insists on looking deeper into the situation and finding what may be wrong or deceitful. With Pluto placed in the 6th house, gathering facts in an investigative manner and then proposing, in writing, a better way of doing things based on these findings would be appropriate. Mr. Nader should be commended for using his Pluto square in such a positive manner since there is a choice made whenever an aspect occurs as to whether to use it beneficially or destructively. His taking on of corporate giants could be attributed to Saturn resting on his north node causing him to push for fairness (Venus rests on his north node as well) and social consciousness in the business world and within corporations, with Venus also contributing to his environmental concerns. His work all day Spartan (Arien) lifestyle would again be contributed to his north node in the house of Aries (a driven work-oriented personality). With his south node occupying the house of Libra, and the south node representing what one needs to relinquish in order to achieve their best, a lack of love interest is appropriate and to his benefit in order to best achieve his goals (although having a relationship could be an asset as long as his maintained his independence). Mr. Nader's achievements seem to result from his ability to adhere to the direction of his north node. The development of Bell's Palsy in 1986 occurred as Neptune was beginning it's four year sextile to his south node ruler, his sun in Pisces in the 1st house. When a planet affects one's south node ruler, the individual goes through a period of reverse learning, when they must retreat into their shadow-self, and it is often a difficult time. For him it was a time of pulling out of the public realm, Aquarius, and heading into Leo, the personal. The mysteriousness of his illness as well as the involuntary shedding of tears could be contributed to this transit to his sun in Pisces, causing a great personal sorrow to reveal itself involuntarily and unconsciously. It is interesting that his re-emergence into the public sphere coincided with Neptune's completion of it's sextile to his south node ruler in the early 90's. His personal work was through, and he was able to pursue his Aquarian/ Arien passions again.
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« Reply #4 - on: 31.12.2000 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Elva Howson
 
This is a general overview as no dates were given for Ralph's brothers death or onset of Palsy I will not attempt to narrow my analysis to smaller time frame charts. Nader's 1986 time frame was set up with strong emphasis on Aries/Mars, Prog Sun at critical 29 deg Aries moving to partile square with natal Asc within the year, this frequently heralds health issues, major stressful changes and endings. This prog aspect was from the 3rd natal house ruled by Mars. Comparing the prog Antiscia points with natal placings we see prog Mars in conjunction natal Vertex, here is one explanation/indication of the experiencing of facial muscle paralysis and Mars being ruler natal 3rd the loss of his brother. Prog Mercury came to contraparallel natal Mercury indicating further stress in matters of 3rd house/siblings.
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« Reply #5 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Sylvia Tobias
 
With Aquarius rising and Venus, North Node and Saturn in Aquarius in his first house, it seems natural that Ralph Nader would be attracted to political activism. His Scorpio midheaven squaring Saturn would add to his drive and relentless pursuit of his causes. Jupiter in Libra in the 9th house opposite Uranus in Aries in the 3rd house square Pluto in Cancer in the 6th would make it easy for him to convince others to follow his lead and join his cause. Those placements would also be useful in his journalistic abilities. I believe the investigative part of that is more ruled by the Saturn/Midheaven square. His Sun, Mars and Mercury in Pisces in the 2nd house would help him work behind the scenes to discover the defects and problems he exposed. The Jupiter/Uranus/Pluto T-square gives him the tenacity to dig deeply into things and be unafraid of "rocking the boat". The large number of planets in Aquarius and Pisces and Saturn in the first house, along with no planets in Taurus could explain his spartan life.  
I haven't done any progressions/directions for him in 1986. A quick look at the transits indicates that Saturn was squaring his Sun and Uranus was squaring his Mercury. That could certainly explain his health problems. The Saturn square Sun could have represented the loss of his brother as well.
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« Reply #6 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Maggie Anderson
 
1. "Dictating" (?) the terms of a more democratic state. a) 00:04 degree Aquarius Ascendant with traditional ruler, Saturn, in the same sign indicates highly developed social conscience. b) Moon, natural ruler of the public, parallel Chiron, the asteroid which shows where "unfairness" is experienced. Working on behalf of the public, Ralph identified and exposed large corporations who abused their power. c) Ascendant ruler, Saturn, mutually applying to Jupiter, natural ruler of the law. Ability to effectively use the legal system.  
2. Investigative journalism. a) Scorpio on cusp of 10th house of profession, ruled by Mars. b) Mars conjunct Mercury, natural ruler of writing. c) Mercury in mutual reception with Venus in his first house. Venus rules 9th house of publishing - and law. His work was instrumental in drafting the Freedom of Information Act.  
3. Taking on corporate giants: a) Mars, ruler of 10th house mutually applying to trine with Pluto, showing he would effect significant changes through his work. Mars also rules 3rd house of automobiles. Ralph's first major challenge was to the automobile manufacturers with his book, "Unsafe at Any Speed". b) Mars trines Pluto, representing transformation, in the 6th house of health. He played key role in creating the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. c) Trine between the two societal planets, Saturn and Jupiter. Ability to comprehend and work within the "big picture".  
4. Work-all-day Spartan lifestyle with no love interest to speak of. a) Ruler of his 5th house of pleasure is Mercury. It's very debilitated by being retrograde and peregrine. Mercury is mutually applying to a conjunction with Mars, ruler of his 10th house of profession. Work is pleasurable for him. b) Mars, ruler of 10th, mutually applying to Pluto Rx in 6th house of everyday routine. He's easily able to work obsessively. c) His Ascendant ruler, Saturn, in the first is an indicator of extreme self-discipline.  
Advanced placement question: 1986 Loss of brother: Using Regiomontanus house system, the brother is represented by the 3rd house of siblings, 28:29 Aries. Using derived houses and turning the chart to make the 3rd the 1st, and progressing the chart to 1/1/86, puts progressed Mars, ruler of the 8th house of death, exactly on the brother's Ascendant.  
Bell's Palsy 1) Progressing Ascendant (1/1/86) is 28:33 Aries, the sign associated with the head and facial area. 2) Natal 6th house of health has Moon ruled Cancer on the cusp. Natal Moon progressed to Cancer is in the natal 6th and out-of-bounds by declination showing an extreme health situation. Cancer is a water sign, thus the involuntary shedding of tears. 3) Progressed Sun, Mars, Uranus all conjunct the Ascendant. 4) Progressed 6th house of health has Virgo on the Cusp, Virgo, ruled by Mercury, indicating neurological disorders. Mercury resides in the 12th house of confinement, in Aries, showing health problems will show up in his head and severely limit him.
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« Reply #7 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Michael Bradford
 
The main features of Ralph Nader's life are clearly shown in his Vedic / sidereal chart. Fame, ability and prominence are indicated as ascendant lord Saturn is very strong in its own sign and, with Venus, forms two powerful royal yogas. Mercury and Mars form another royal yoga in the second house of finance and speech.  
His concern with big business is clearly indicated as 10th lord (business) Venus is in the 1st house with 1st lord Saturn. Saturn also aspects the 10th house (Libra), which is its sign of exaltation. Therefore, the 10th lord very powerfully affects the 1st house and its lord, and the 1st lord does the same to the 10th house and its lord. Venus symbolizes big business as is it is highly materialistic by nature and likes to accumulate wealth and possessions. Saturn, too, is highly materialistic, and the aspect of the North Node of the Moon (Rahu) on these planets adds a strong dose of outer-worldly ambition to both their modes of operation.  
His crusading nature and social concern come from the fact that 1st lord Saturn is with Rahu in the lunar mansion of Dhanishtha, which is noted for its virtuous nature, charity, concern for the well-being of others, and an interest in wealth -- i.e. the way in which corporate wealth is accumulated. This tendency is supported by the fact that the ascendant is in the lunar mansion of Uttar Ashada which is noted for honesty, sincerity, determination, an ability to penetrate (into the affairs of big business i.e. Venus), and the tendency to start new tasks and see them through to the end.  
The aspect of 1st lord Saturn on the 3rd house (writing and communications) and the aspect of 3rd lord Jupiter on the 1st house indicate the strong role that journalism plays in the attainment of his goals.  
Dhanishtha is also known for a strong disinclination towards close relationships with others, and the presence there of 1st lord Saturn (who is also disinclined to having close relationships) casting an aspect onto the Moon in Cancer in the 7th house, clearly shows both his shyness in public (Moon), and his solitary nature and lack of marriage (7th house). 1st lord Saturn is also very Spartan by nature and the aspect from ambitious Rahu contributes very strongly to his workaholic disposition.  
Neuritis and paralysis are ruled by Saturn, and Saturn is both the ruler of the second house (face) and afflicted by Rahu, which rules skin diseases. The tendency for this illness is compounded by the fact that the 2nd house contains Mercury (which rules the nerves) afflicted by both the Sun and Mars.  
As to why 1986 was so eventful, it is no surprise that in the Vimshottri Dasha (life cycle) system, he started a 7 year cycle of the planet Mars in October of that year. Mars is the natural significator of siblings and aspects Jupiter, the lord of the 3rd house of siblings, in Virgo, the sign of Mercury who is an enemy of Mars and Jupiter, where the latter is weak. Mars aspects Jupiter from the 2nd house, which in Vedic astrology is a Maraka or house of death. As stated above, Mars also afflicts his enemy Mercury (nerves) directly as they both tenant the 2nd house (face), triggering the onset of the neuritis.
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re: Ralph Nader
« Reply #8 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Sy Scholfield
 
DICTATING THE TERMS OF A MORE DEMOCRATIC STATE: (1) Uranus (the planet associated with democracy) in Aries (forceful) in the Third House (speech) at chart's base (giving foundation to his democratic principles). (2) Angular Uranus in a focal position in a boomerang pattern: Uranus opposite Jupiter in Libra (social/equity) which forms a Yod through quincunxes with Mars/Mercury (strong voice) and otherwise-unaspected Chiron (terms and conditions). The quincunxes in the Yod/Boomerang are wide, but not insignificant because Uranus is placed at the midpoint between Mars/Mercury and Chiron. (3) Angular boomeranging Uranus ruling his Aquarian Ascendant (democratic self-expression) and dispositing his Venus (through good values), North Node (to the public) & Saturn (through bossiness).  
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM: (1) Mars (ruler of Third House of journalistic activities) conjunct Mercury (planet associated with journalism), both disposited by Neptune in the Eighth House (of deep investigative research). (2) Also, Mars so placed, also dispositing Third House Uranus, both aspected by angular Pluto (the planet associated with deep investigations). (3) Unaspected Chiron (reporter) ruling Virgo cusp of Eighth House (in-depth research).  
TAKING ON CORPORATE GIANTS: (1) Jupiter in Ninth (corporate giants) in hard aspect to (and therefore challenged by) courageous Mars, an indefatigable angular Pluto, and Uranus in brave Aries. (2) Saturn at 21 Aquarius (the ability to constructively obstruct) conjunct and at the midpoint between both the Moon's Node (public expression) and the Neptune discovery degree (which as pointed out in my commentary on Ted Turner can manifest negatively with greedy big business associations). (3) Obstructing Saturn disposits the Capricorn (big business) decanate of Virgo containing his Eighth House Neptune (business conglomerations and mergers).  
WORK-ALL-DAY Spartan lifestyle: (1) Thrifty Chiron unaspected. (2) Angular Pluto in Sixth (workaholic) ruling MC (goals) and disposited by Moon in Leo in Seventh (bringing him emotional satisfaction and pride through a "relationship" with his work). (3) Tenacious Moon (ruler of sixth House of work) disposited by Self-expressive Sun in martyrizing Pisces.  
NO LOVE INTEREST: (1) Monkish Chiron unaspected on the 4th/5th cusp, therefore bringing a certain and remarkable asexuality by being placed between (but not really in either of) the houses associated respectively with femininity and masculinity. The rulers of the 4th and 5th are an unaspected Venus and Mercury which conjuncts Mars but in Platonic Pisces. (2) Sun (ruler of his Seventh House of partners) in Pisces, opposed by its dispositor, Platonic Neptune in virginal Virgo in the Eighth House of sexuality. (3) Venus (one's lovers) unaspected (unattainable) on Ascendant in cool Aquarius, dispositing unaspected Chiron (as above).  
In 1986 he LOST HIS CLOSE BROTHER as progressed planet-of-death Pluto reached about 14 Virgo in his Eighth House (of death) to oppose both the following planets and their midpoint: natal Mars, ruler of his Third house of siblings and Sun, ruler of his Seventh House of partners; and BELL'S PALSY FROZE HIS FACE as progressed icy Pluto conjunct his natal soppy Neptune in the Eighth House of loss of control (such that he shed tears involuntarily). And he seemed to "lose face" himself..
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re: Ralph Nader
« Reply #9 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Kevin Bold (Founder :Sidereal_Astrology-subscribe@egroups.com)
 
Like his fellow liberal Al Gore, Nader has Sun opposite Neptune (I wonder how many other liberals have a Sun-Neptune aspect, too!). This will give him many Pisces traits, since Neptune rules Pisces.  
People who are "driven" (no pun intended) usually have at least one T-Square, and Nader's no exception. His has a foreground Pluto, the radically transforming planet, interacting with a Jupiter-Uranus opposition (Jupiter and Uranus working together supposedly make one something of a "crusader", or so I was told the first time someone did my chart nearly 17 years ago!) Allow 8* orbs on squares and oppositions, and this T-Square becomes a Grand Cross that includes the Ascendant. Nader's Sun and Neptune also make 8th Harmonic aspects to this T-Square.  
Pluto's also in Nader's Grand Trine, which it forms with his Midheaven and his Mercury-Mars conjunction - no wonder this guy's feisty!  
Uranus' presence in the "transforming crusader" T-square underscores Nader's Sun, which is in Sidereal Aquarius, which Uranus rules.  
Chiron is also in Nader's foreground. Not only is it closer to the IC than to the 5th House cusp, it trines his Ascendant.  
Finally, with Saturn opposite his Moon, Nader's lifestyle is more easily understood.
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« Reply #10 - on: 31.03.2000 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Eric Meece (E. Alan Meece)
 
Mars is the ruler of the 3rd (brothers) and is conjunct Mercury (3rd house natural ruler in 3rd). In 1986 Saturn and Uranus were in Sagittarius squaring these planets, and also his Sun-Neptune opposition. Uranus is also the planet of nervous conditions and paralysis.
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« Reply #11 - on: 24.01.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Estebon Duarte CMA
 
Regarding Venus in Ralph's chart. The action of love or bonding with another or even physical union is inhibited in the romantic sense as Venus is disposited by Saturn (Medievally), who is in essential dignity. Venus is driven instead by Saturn's intellectual acquisition and expression (Aquarius), a lust even (Venus), for social idealism and action driven also by humanistic spiritual conviction (Venus rules the ninth house which Saturn rules by exaltation). Thus Venus has less room to express herself emotionally with others romantically, though she seems to have found this room as ruler of the fourth house, where we find the strong emotional connection to family and apprehensive attitude toward his home (Taurus).
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« Reply #12 - on: 30.10.2003 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Raghu  Panikker
 
Natal Predispositions:
1. MC=SATURN "a tenacious adhering to one's objectives or aims in life,the inclination to occupy oneself with one's own personality" 2. JUPITER=PLUTO "the desire to lead the masses,an appreciation of the need for social or religious regeneration,the leading of or the participation in uprisings" 3. SUN=JUPITER=PLUTO "successful use of extraordinary physical or mental powers" 4. SUN=URANUS/PLUTO "over-excitement of the nerves" 5. SATURN=MERCURY/PLUTO "Nervous irritation through over-work" 6. URANUS=SUN/NEPTUNE "A suddenly emerging weakness or illness,mourning" 7. NEPTUNE=URANUS/ASC "the sudden undermining of associations,sudden sad experiences" 8. MOON=VENUS/SATURN "an unfortunate disposition or difficult circumstances in all matters of love-expression" 9. VENUS=SATURN/PLUTO "Self-discipline,a love of solitude or seclusion,asceticism" 10. SATURN=NODE/MC "A person who lives alone or cut himself off from others"
Directed SUN,JUPITER and PLUTO contacted natal MC in 1965 triggering 2 and 3 above. PLUTO=MC has a tendency to "look upon one's vocation or calling as a mission as well".
In 1986 progressed Neptune reached 9Virgo51 just 5 minutes away from an exact contact with URANUS=SUN/NEPTUNE triggering 6 and 7 above helped by 4 and 5. There was a stationary transit of Saturn contacting natal Uranus in March 1986 triggering this Neptunian progression. Also, directed MC contacted natal SATURN/NEPTUNE,the well established sickness combination and directed SUN contacted natal MARS/NEPTUNE in 1986.Directed MARS/SATURN contacting natal NEPTUNE in early 1986 corresponded to the loss of brother.
I have only mentioned the most important contacts and far more details can be obtained by examining other combinations. All quotations above are from Ebertin's COSI . These comments show that one can get astonishingly accurate results using only well established cosmic factors(SUN,MOON,Planets,NODE,ASC and MC) and their angular relationships (multiples of 45 degree only with tight orbs)without considering any signs,houses,hypothetical planets or asteroids
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« Reply #13 - on: 06.03.2004 at 12:30 [UT] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Agnes Frank
 
I would like to know what the astrology community thinks of Ralph Nader's effect on the 2004 presidential election now that he decided to run again. How will this tilt the outcome? What are his chances this time?
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re: Ralph Nader
« Reply #14 - on: 03.07.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Karen Murphy
 
It might be worth taking another look at Ralph Nader, and asking some additional questions about the "darker aspects" of his chart, given today's article in Salon by Lisa Chamberlain: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/07/01/nader_jacobs/index.html Nader, again, has an opportunity to have a tremendous impact on this November's election. Although it will have little impact on him, his family or friends (he has none), or how he lives, it will likely have huge effects for many other people, ironically, for those very people he claims need his protection.
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« Reply #15 - on: 17.07.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Judy__
 
A couple of things others seem to have missed: Saturn in the first house might indicate some degree of paranoia but it also indicates a soul old beyond his years in an unsympathetic environment, paternal, reserved, modest and self-reliant.(Some of his staff used to call him Father Ralph) It also tends to mess up his relationships with women since his emotions are dominated by sense of duty. Nevertheless he is charming, attractive, a good companion, intense, sociable.
His second house shows strong self confidence, recognition, public life, popularity, and being able to carry out feats of endurance with a fighting spirit and great executive ability. A bit blunt and irritable but very productive. Unusual accomplishments. He's often limited by lack of money.  
He has 'Neptunian' eyes, a scholarly bent and higher wisdom from the third house. A somewhat desultory manner but sharp-witted.The other two candidates are different in this regard as they have occult tendencies.
From the sixth house he has an inquisitive mind, fanatical zeal, accumulates great detail. He can be ascerbic and fault-finding. He is also investigative and profound.  
The eigth house might involve obligatory pain and self-sacrifice in later years. Perhaps related to his mission.
The ninth house would indicate someone highly evolved, a risk-taker, a humanitarian, just, with great nobility of spirit. He has great objectives, broad plans and foresight. A strong sense of mission.
The tenth house would indicate tenacity, overwork but sober and conscientious.
He isn't very adaptable but his chart indicates an ability to take problems of the world upon himself. However, both of his opponents in 2004 have strong indications of tragic events for others associated with them. An area probably needing more research. He seems needed to equilibrate their tendencies...perhaps for something more long-term than just the election???
 
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« Reply #16 - on: 10.08.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
reply by Astrodatabank Web User roxANNE  
 
How about looking for a signature that supports the ridiculous notion of him "working for the republicans." No way. That accusation would show up in his 12th house: nada.. I've read that Jesus had a true 27th February birthdate. Is there a signature that shows Ralph's role in the USA? Is he their savior, or their choice of rejection..for what for bush or kerry..and you can liken THEM to the likes of the jew and barabas: violence is the answer. Is there violence in Ralph's chart? I think he'd be a great legal candidate, as a lawyer to oust the faux religious greed and power zealots - he could bust that nest right open with these aspects, especially falling in hard aspect to bush (libra aries vs cancer). The press always loves him in that role. He should have been president.
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« Reply #17 - on: 20.08.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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1. Uranus ascending has humanitarian and democratic issues at heart with Venus N. node and Saturn occupying H1; ruled by Uranus Aries H3 which energitically pursues making others aware through communication; Tsquare with Jupiter Libra 9 and Pluto Cancer 6 (focal planet) of the need for deep investigations of anything that is a health hazard (Pluto Cancer 6) and can be decided upon judicially (Jupiter Libra H9); Jupiter ruled by Venus Aquarius H1 implies that he initiates this himself, through communications/journalism (Uranus H3). Ascendant trines Chiron Taurus H4/H5 and is also ruled by Venus which rules H4 and H9 - this can make him a creative agent in defining the value of material goods (Chiron Taurus) in support of humanitarian values (Venus Aquarius); that have a bearing on what he considers his family and his allegiance with foreigners.
2. Sun Pisces H2 (with Mars conjunct Mercury) is opposite Neptune (a significator and ruler of H2 wher the Sun is located) and is emphatically opposed to the efficient deceptions of corporate business (Neptune Virgo 8) and has a compassionate drive (Mars Pisces) to expose and relate (conjunct Mecury Pisces) the hidden factors undermining the health and welfare of others (trine Pluto 6). Jupiter Libra 9 (the other significator of the Sun) in a Tetrodic Yod with Mercury/Mars in a wide sextile with Chiron and with Uranus opposing Jupiter - the focal planet. It is through using the judicial system that he can achieve the most impact in gaining reform (Uranus 3) for his work (Pluto 6) and thereby ameliorate the material conditions (H2 Jupiter ruled) and social conditions (H11 Jupiter ruled) that are unfair or imbalanced (Libra).
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« Reply #18 - on: 30.08.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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What is it in the 7/3/04 aspects to Ralph Nader's natal and progressed charts that disposes him to a thinly veiled ad hominem attack on his character from a leading member of the Pennsylvania astrological community such as Karen Murphy? Murphy posted an unprofessional and libelous attack on the character of Ralph Nader rather than offering any insight into Nader's chart. Murphy libeled Ralph Nader by asserting that Nader has no family or friends, an outright falsehood clearly meant as a hyperpolic insult. She adds a link to a libelous attack piece against Nader published earlier at Salon.com. As an astrologer, she must know that no chart reading can be done to investigate aspects of a person's character which do not exist. The "darker side" to Nader's character that she alludes to does not exist -- it is the sheer concoction of Nader's political enemies, as any competent delineation of Nader's chart clearly shows. It would be instructive to investigate the timing of the Salon article in relation to Nader's chart, though.
Murphy is listed as a board member of the Pennsylvania Astrological Society: http://www.findastrologer.com/astrology_organizations.htm
Making the assumption that this is the same Murphy (seemingly safe, since both have publicized themselves under upenn.edu email addresses and the likelihood of two astrologers at U Penn at the same time with the same name is pretty slim), we can look for the emergence of an attack on Nader' character from the Pennsylvania Astrological Society, which has published its birthdate at:
http://www.amandaowen.com/phila_astro_society.htm
Progressing both Nader and the PAS's charts to July 3, 2004, the date of Murphy's attack-posting against Nader, we find that the PAS has three planets, one major asteroid and its midheaven all in Nader's progressed 7th house of enemies:
 SATU: 28 Sco 11 MERC: 1 Sag 03 MC: 15 Sag 28 VEST: 15 Sag 52 URAN: 15 Sag 57
The tight conjunction of Vesta and Uranus with the midheaven on the 10th House side of the cusp indicates:
a) a rebellion (uranus) against the discipline of the public (MC) temple (vesta), in this case the astrodienst website being the temple and its rules regarding postings focused on astrological investigation, and the whole restriction of the astrological profession to ethical and non-malicious, non-deceptive use of its means and methods, being the object of the rebellion. b) a devotional sacrifice (vesta) of one's adherence to professionalism (MC) in astrology (Uranus) for a perceived higher purpose (vesta at midheaven -- the purpose in this case presumably being to eject GW Bush from the Presidency by any means necessary, including acting in reckless disregard to the reputation of the astrological profession and unjustifiedly smearing the character of Ralph Nader).
The fact that all this is happening in Sag indicates that it involves hyperbole (Murphy absurdly asserting that Nader has no family or friends, overstating her case and overblowing the relatively few ex-friends who have denounced Nader's run compared to the many true friends that have stood by Nader solidly). Sag also means greatly exaggerated stories, tall-tales, based on rumours and hot air, are involved (the Salon article). If Nader's house of enemies were on Virgo, for example, his enemies would be attacking him with detailed analyses and meticulously crafted critical treatises, none of which have emerged at all against him.
PAS's Mercury at 1 Sag in Nader's 7th H, conunct PAS's Saturn at 28 Sco in Nader's 7th H, corresponds to the brevity of Murphy's posting and the halting manner in which it presents its meaning.
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re: Ralph Nader
« Reply #19 - on: 30.08.2004 at 13:30 [UT+1] »
 
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Saturn in Scorpio (difficulty in understanding root causes) conjuct Mercury in Sag (glibness) in PAS's 9th house of research and dogma correspond to Murphy's failure to research the basis of her posting, and her readiness to post her thoughts on the matter (merc) without self-restraint (sag).
But why July 3, 2004 and not another day, since all four planets and MC have been in Nader's 7th H for months?
Transits for that day include an exact square of Mars at 5Leo to PAS's progressed Pluto at 4 Sco 51, which in turn is in exact aspect to the following PAS prog planets/points:
semi-septile to Merc (within half a degree) novile to Uran/Vesta/MC (within one degree) sextile to Nept in 10th and Ceres in 6th (wide, w/in 5 degs) conjunct Sun/Juno/SNode in 9th (w/in 4 degrees) square Jupiter in 12th (w/in 4 degs), Jup T-squaring NNode and Pluto/Sun/Juno/SNode Grand Trine with ASC in Pisces and Pallas on 5th Cusp
In other words, the hard Mars transit on PAS's progressed Pluto was primed to be extremely potent and volatile.
Other transits that help explain the indiscretion are: - transiting Jupiter T-squaring PAS prog Uran/Vesta/MC and Chiron/Moon/IC, hyperinflating in a harsh way the projection of inner hurt and vulnerability out into public rebellion against professional, spiritual and occult discipline. - transiting Venus trine PAS prog Jupiter, making hyperbole and reckless abandon pleasurable and seemingly in accord with values - first return of PAS prog nodal axis almost exact, and sqaure PAS prog Jupiter. This gives PAS a sense of overall focus and alignment with its karmic purpose, made overconfident by the Jupiter square, giving it a sort of karmic complacency that contributes to the failure to notice the mars transit throwing it momentarily off-mission and out of whack.
Conclusion: The ad hominem attack on Ralph Nader by Karen Murphy on 7/3/04 may have been a manifestation of a harsh Mars transit on an already Jupiter-afflicted progressed chart of the Pennsylvania Astrological Society, on whose board Murphy serves, activating key planets/points in the PAS progressed chart that were and still are clustered in Nader's progressed 7th house of enemies.
I don't have a birth chart for Salon.com, but it would be interesting to see if its progressed chart also suffered a harsh Mars transit aspecting planets in Nader's progressed 7th H, on the date of its publication of its attack on Nader
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