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« on: 14.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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Jerry Falwell, born 11 August 1933 at 12:00 noon in Lynchburg VA
 
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Jerry Falwell was arguably the father of modern televangelism. With his sharply fundamentalist views, preacher-talk, and strong biases, he convinced millions of people that his opinions were the only right ones. He is credited with unifying religious conservatives and strengthening their political bargaining power. The New York Times obituary, written by Peter Applebome (May 15, 2007) said: "He was at home in both the millennial world of fundamentalist Christianity and the earthly blood sport of the political arena." His death, at a young-ish 73, has been seen by some as a signal that the religious right is ending its sway over American politics. Whatever you may think of his views, his action, or his political influence, Falwell's life and his chart are definitely worthy of study!
  • Falwell's family history and his early life read like a biblical story. What astrological factors might indicate these experiences that surely must have been influential on Falwell's development?
  • Falwell was "born again" at a young age. He began his ministry by building a church for a few believers and soon expanded his empire to radio, TV, university and more. Where in the chart is the "born-again" evangelical? Where is the ability to turn religion into a business? And where is the political lobbyist, the person at home in both the religious sphere and the "blood sport of the political arena"?
  • How do you interpret Falwell's cardinal t-square, formed by an opposition of Mars to Uranus, both in square to Pluto? What role does this aspect pattern play in his personality, his development, his vocation and his rise to power?
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« Reply #1 - on: 14.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
reply by Astrodatabank Web User sandstone
 
i think i can see religious quack in the chart. saturn focal planet in aquarius, aspecting the sun moon and ascedant for the most part, with venus and jupiter in stuffy virgo. pluto in the 9th at top of a t square is one of religious intolerance given the planets in combines with and signs they are in. a little controversy might stimulate some commentary!
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« Reply #2 - on: 15.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
reply by Astrodatabank Web User M
 
This is a very ramrod chart that gives the native alot of power and focus...
The t-square is very strong. Modern chart ruler is the apex along with the part of fortune..Pluto is tranformation, death and rebirth, Cancer is the home or conservative, 9th house is religion, this is perfect for evangelical christianity a "return to roots" with Mars-Uranus its a steam roller...tons of energy...gang way..the part of fortune allowed him great ability and made him very popular and strong..
The moon in Taurus at the descendant is happy, go lucky, jolly and smiling...people liked him, well his congragants anyways..very much at ease and comfortable...very moon in Taurean energy..comforting, easy going and soft energy
The chart is a funnel to Saturn in Aquarius on the nadir...The Sun-Saturn opposition, while strong shows the problem with his father...Saturn is retrograde and opposed by the Sun..Thats the absent father who died early...Saturn rules the 4th house, which is the father...in Aquarius he wasnt bad, but unconventional and not religious...opposing the Sun, the son disagreed with his father, but respected him...the isolation of Saturn shows the frustration and lownliness of the father and erratic behavior...
The sun is very strong...In dignity by essential and accidental..Ruling the 10th house...Strong mother...devoted..heard him once refer to her as a saint..fashioned himself after her...The strong sun made him a good leader..Outspoken with Dignity...the Opposition with Saturn shows his polarizing effect...Saturn with Aquarius was the non believers who faught him..those he resented who had no faith like his father and paternal roots (Nadir Saturn in Aquarius)
Mars in Libra in the 12th is weak, it shows he wasnt martinet with that smiling face and easy demeanor but when pushed very strong resolve...always smiling but inside was the hidden agenda that occasionally came out with virulent speeches and strong rhetoric...
The Sun-Saturn axis is very strong with both in rulership but in a strong opposition...this is what killed him inevitably...the two rule the heart and the blood vessels..both are natural enemies and in this chart both very strong...Saturn limited the circulation and opposed the hearts natural rhythm..it is also retrograde, showing backups in the vessels..
The chart is a hemisphere to the northern hemisphere or southern, im not sure the correct wording..the top part of the chart if u will....a man very concerned with the political and social environment...his personal life mattered little and he never touted it..
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« Reply #3 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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I wonder if early death was god's punishment for Jerry's disdain and hatred of gays? Where is god indicated in the chart?
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saaturn lwood... an uptight rigid guy with a grey beard really far away on the other side of the rest of his chart and freezing all his major points.
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« Reply #5 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
reply by Astrodatabank Web User Marjorie Orr
 
God according to Falwell would come from the trenchantly intolerant 9th house Pluto (Koch) on the point of a T square. Though I agree with Sandstone that fixed disiplinarian Saturn opposing Sun and square Moon would also add a hint of elder power, play it by my rules or else, which has more than a hint of the Old Testament God. His chart is quite interlinked with the USA chart - his Pluto conjunct US Mercury (and Sun); his Venus Jup in Virgo conjunct US Neptune; his Leo Sun Saturn opp falling within orb of the US Nodal axis and Moon. This and the last chart on ADB seem oddly American in a way that feels strange to Europeans. Evangelists of this sort are more intrinsic to US culture than elsewhere. Religion (Christian) is a more central feature of present-day US politics than it is in secular Europe. Interesting to conjecture whether Bush's war on terror which is effectively Christian versus Islam might stem from this very public and politicized use of religion. Ours is right, yours is wrong, a stance which Europe mercifully managed to abandon several hundred years back.
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« Reply #6 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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<b>1.) </b> " What astrological factors might indicate these experiences that surely must have been influential on Falwell's development?"
The fourth house rules the influence of the family of origin and in Falwells chart you have the natural ruler of the 4th house (Moon) conjunct the natal ruler of the 4th house (Uranus). This Moon/Uranus conjunction is conjunct the 7th house cusp of relationships.  
Mars, Uranus and Pluto form a T-Square with Pluto as the focal planet. This shows that his family of origin influences (Moon/Uranus) would be very volatile and violent and that this volatility would center on relationships and partnerships (7th house cusp)  
You also have the traditional ruler of an Aquarius 4th house (Saturn) conjunct the IC. Saturn is this charts most angular planet and most dignified planet. This tells me that his response to the volatility, violence and scandal of his early years would be to place himself in a position of leadership and authority (Saturn). His Leo Sun in the 10th house and opposite Saturn bolsters this conclusion.
<b>2.) </b> " Where in the chart is the "born-again" evangelical? Where is the ability to turn religion into a business? And where is the political lobbyist, the person at home in both the religious sphere and the "blood sport of the political arena"?"
Neptune in the 10th house and it trines the Moon and sextiles the ASC: This shows the potential for religious/mystical experience. That Uranus is conjunct that Moon and in opposition to ASC ruler Mars in the 12th house further fuels the fire for sudden (Uranus) mystical (Neptune) experience that both moves one emotionally (Moon) as well as moving one into action (Mars) from unconscious or subterranean influences (12th house).
At the time of his conversion transiting Neptune was exactly conjunct his natal Mars in the 12th house and transiting Mars - also in the 12th house - was exactly opposing his natal Moon/Uranus conjunction.
Jupiter in an exact sextile to Pluto shows religion (Jupiter) as big business (Jupiter/Pluto). The natural ruler of the 8th house of finance (Pluto) is conjunct the natal ruler of the 8th house (Mercury) and they are both in the 9th house of religion. This shows the business religion mogul. This also shows us the religious (Jupiter) political power player (Pluto).
Saturn is also in a quincunx/tri-septile to Neptune which shows one with a potentially skewed ideology as well as one who blurs the lines between reality (Saturn) and fantasy (Neptune). This is a very handy talent for both politicians and megalomaniac ministers.
<b>3.) </b> " How do you interpret Falwell's cardinal t-square? What role does this aspect pattern play in his personality, his development, his vocation and his rise to power? "
This combination of Mars/Uranus and Pluto shows his volatility and his compulsion to violent verbal outburst (Mercury squares Uranus) in a quest for power (Pluto). This is a picture of a fighter willing to use any means necessary to win and a willingness to get down and dirty in his quest for power (Pluto) and moral authority (Sun conjunct MC opposite Saturn and Saturn quincunx Neptune).
The co-rulers of the ASC (Mars/Pluto) are square each other which shows personality at odds with itself. Pluto in the 9th conjunct Mercury shows how he would take the themes of sex (Mars/Pluto) and Armageddon (the T-Square itself) and use technology (Uranus) to communicate (Mercury) his skewed moralistic ideology (Neptune quincunx Saturn) to gain and build power (Jupiter/Pluto) that would radicalize the people (Moon/Uranus).
Venus conjunct Jupiter in Virgo in the 11th house show why he so skillfully used religious (Jupiter) values (Venus) of moral perfection (Virgo) to move large groups of like-minded people (11th house) with his vision of a moral majority (Saturn in Aquarius conjunct the IC) that of course he would lead (10th house Leo Sun).
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« Reply #7 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
reply by Astrodatabank Web User sandstone
 
marjorie, i agree with you on the pluto in the 9th and god. it is like a messianic complex. i have it in the 9th too in similiar fashion, a bit less radical as it involves the feminine planets.. i think the 9th can point towards ones higher beliefs and ideals, not so much about gossiping over the party down the street, or what somebody is watching on tv so much as what are the beliefs driving a culture or society of people.. consequently topics like immigration, abortion, and etc - all those political type issues - seem to be a focal point for someone with pluto in the 9th as some of them were for falwell.  
interesting how saturn the grim reaper transit to his sun and he dies...i haven't studied the particular date, but that in itself fits.. i have seen it before.
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« Reply #8 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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First of all, thanks to everyone for all the interesting, insightful comments so far.  
One of the first things that's always come to my mind whenever I've heard the name Jerry Falwell is the landmark 1988 Supreme Court decision that resulted from an ad parody Larry Flynt (pornographer and publisher of Hustler magazine) did of Jerry Falwell, in which Jerry is supposedly describing "My First Time" having sex, which is with his mother in an outhouse. Jerry sued Larry for $50 million for emotional distress and won all the way up to the Supreme Court when the decision was overturned in Larry's favor, honoring the 1st Amendment, free speech, etc.
That lawsuit started in 1983, but their bitter rivalry had begun as early as the 1970s when Jerry was forever blasting the porn king Larry and all he stood for. Then in 1997 it happened that they were interviewed together on the Larry King Show, and much to Larry's surprise Jerry was suddenly "hugging and smooching him" and acting like his best friend. Then after the show Jerry continued to pursue the relationship, visiting him often, inviting him to go around the country debating each other at colleges, and even exchanging Christmas cards.  
After Jerry died, Larry stated that the fact they became friends was just as big a shock to him as his (Larry's) winning their famous lawsuit.  
I too had always wondered how this had come about; was it sincere on Jerry's part?, etc., and I think some answers can be found in Jerry's chart.  
The very first thing that jumped out at me was the Moon in Taurus/Uranus in Aries conj. on his Asc., which suggests the shocking physical relationship with his mother depicted in the imaginative ad parody. It is first disposited by Mars in Libra in the 12th, showing how he felt victimized in an intimately sexual way.
It is also disposited by Venus in the 11th, conj. Jupiter and Neptune, all in Virgo, which correlates with the whole thing being orchestrated by a like-minded person, in that both Jerry's and Larry's fathers were alcoholics and bootleggers, and perhaps the biggest challenge of both their lives was bringing order (Virgo) to complete childhood chaos (alcoholic bootlegger fathers) in an expansive salesmanship way (Jerry sold religion and Larry pornography). No wonder they became genuine friends with so much in common!
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« Reply #9 - on: 16.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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Correction: Moon/Uranus Conj. on his DESCENDANT, of course, not ascendant.
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« Reply #10 - on: 17.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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"Interesting to conjecture whether Bush's war on terror which is effectively Christian versus Islam might stem from this very public and politicized use of religion."
Majorie, I've read that opinion in many diverse places however I don't agree with it entirely. For the likes of Jerry Falwell it contains a ring of truth, but even he is mostly showman, who must find news ways to shock his followers and gain new ones. Ann Coulter uses similar techniques. In the States we are drowned, buried, flooded with deluges of opinions, gimmicks, trickery 24/7 so that anyone who seeks an audience must use some type of shock and awe to gain attention from our overburdened senses.  
But, back to the war issue, I must maintain it's about oil. Sure Machiavellians in the White House have a few who they can count on to sell it as religious, but it isn't. The U.S. has been buying, taking and stealing needed resources for over a hundred years. I don't see it stopping very soon.
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« Reply #11 - on: 17.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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His sexual prudiness i suscribe to a few factors...
Venus in Virgo can be very sexually prissy....Tending to be proper and conservative (Hence the Virgin)...Moon in Taurus is also conservative so the combination can be very conservative sexually...The fifth house of recreational sex is Jupiter in Virgo or Neptune in Virgo, either way sexually proper..
Mars ruler of sexuality is locked up in the 12th house of secrets in its detriment in Libra...so he could have been very sexually repressed...Pluto in Cancer is also sexually conservative, Cancer is very family oriented and monogomous by nature...
Its interesting to look at charts like his vs. Hugh Hefner who is sexually liberal...both have t-squares with Falwell's to Pluto in Cancer and Hefners to Saturn in Scorpio, both water signs... Both have fire sun signs..Both of them have their ruling planets in water signs and both have Uranus hugging the descendant..
Perhaps Falwell's demise is part of the shake up of the age of Aquarius...but most will forget that Falwell really came to power during the Reagan Revolution Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Libra..perhaps conservatism will return in 2020 when the conjunction returns to Air again?
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« Reply #12 - on: 17.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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"Perhaps Falwell's demise is part of the shake up of the age of Aquarius..." by M
Other than we haven't arrived at Age of Aq I think you're giving Falwell entirely too much significance. If anything he smirks of the final stages of Age of Pisces gone berserk.  
I do not entirely accept the birth time provided by the native. I tend to see his Saturn as 9th/10 house significance. Casting the chart for 12:00 AM Saturn sits next to Mc and also rules the 9th, making a business/profession from 9th house affairs. I noted that his early career began in math and engineering which is indicative (per Gaugelin) of engineering, scientist types and he was gifted in math at an early age. I would hardly call him a true visionary but within his own limited culture he could be so defined. Such people usually have Nept prominent or making a significant aspect. Using the 12 AM time puts Nept square Asc. His father's alcoholism shows up much better with Nept lingering around the 4th house. The midnite chart also gives an Aries moon which I find more fitting of his persona and belligerent manner. This also puts his moon in the Mars-Uran-Pluto T-sqr which can help account for his stated desire to convert America into a Christian theocracy.
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« Reply #13 - on: 17.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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Hmmm
I dunno LWood...My reservation with the Aries moon is comparable to what i read about Hitler...There are some people who think Hitler's Libra ascendant is completely off and that Scorpio must be rising...However, in looking at alot Hitler, we see he was very fond of beauty and purity, much more so than war..In fact if u read up on him, he never did any of the dirty work himself...rather he lived in la la land of "master races" and bold speeches, but never did the actual "dirty work" himself...
If you look at Falwell, his speeches were very much hate oriented but the manner in which he comes across is Reagan-Clintoesque almost..Smiling, Jolly and "Pure"...Aries moons often lose their tempers and can be belligerent, Taurus moons can be haters (Reagan was no friend to the liberals) but the delivery is much more smiley and happy almost...
People wanna like a Taurus moon, they go out of their way to excuse their faults...there is almost like a warmth that radiates from them...Not to say I like Falwell, I dont..but his sort of caricature is very much Taurus moon, this chubby, christian man trying to save the family took alot of people in..of course he can have the Aries moon but im bying it in Taurus alot more easily because of how i and i think many percieve him...
As for ur other comments, all are valid but the father can easily be shown as the 4th house ruler in Aquarius funneled off from the rest of the chart, retrograde opposing the sun..showing the separation from the sun...but then again until someone produces a birth certificate, its all open to argument
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« Reply #14 - on: 17.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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A couple of things before digging into this revealing chart.
 I have been researching the mundane charts of suicide and car bomb attacks in Iraq, and have found something very, very interesting. Astounding, actually, so much so that a book on the subject may well be in order. Next sunday I will type up a preliminary report on this, and anyone who wants a copy should email me. You will not be disappointed. Where is Dean when we need him! I'll give one clue- midpoints. And no, it has nothing to do with any new planets.  
 Though it takes the fun out of spotting them by eye, I cannot commend this site enough for adding septiles to the charts. First quintiles, then septiles... Very appreciated. Now if we could only tighten those orbs... I kid. Cheers.
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« Reply #15 - on: 19.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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I also question the birth time because it sounds like someone's guess. (12 PM). That aside: Falwell's is a Bucket chart with strong Core opposition, a driver of the chart.
Saturn is the Handle and twice accentuated if it truly is conjunct the Nadir: at the foundation of the subject is a sense of maintaining necessary control, structure, rules, laws and limits. Saturn opposed to his Sun suggests his father maintained strict control of Falwell's creative Solar urge and Falwell did not have anything easy. Life is struggle. The Old Testament God has this strongest position in the chart and in his psyche. Jupiter is not nearly as strong as Saturn being in a Mercurial sign opposite one of it's domiciles. Jupiter is not tied into the chart by aspects to any of the personal planets and has only a sextile to Pluto. The benevolence, forgiveness, and blessing of Jupiter represented by the New Testament is overpowered by the strict observance of law and the administration of penalty for transgression.
Saturn is Retrograde suggesting inadequate good fathering for whatever reason, whether missing from the home or present and inadequate as a father. Falwell carries and represents for us the dichotomy between light (Sun) and dark (Saturn); God and Devil. Suggested is great difficulty embracing his own dark side. There is a quarrel between the conscious man and his Shadow coupled with an ability to achieve authority as spokesperson for the moral majority.  
Then there is the equally important Rim opposition: Mars opposed Uranus (& Moon) Suggested is an emotional excitability and the ability to excite others. Here is a tremendous urge to action. He is emotionally intense, electric, even shocking. Libido and assertiveness are intensified. Pluto focuses this intensity and provides a profound outlet in the house of philosophy, religion and understanding, credo.  
The collective idea, shared by so much of America, that old time religion holds the key to happier existence is energized and fired up. (Uranus-Mars) This idea finds expression in the instinctual force of Pluto which eliminates all that is unnecessary for survival. The moral majority seeks to eliminate personal freedoms about your body, your sexual preferences, your choice of legal mate because it holds to more conservative values of the Handle: Saturn. With Mars-Uranus I would suspect that keeping his own libido in control has been a struggle for this subject. There is a moral superiority taken on, possibly as a result of having overcome the dark side. But there is also the possibility of an internal police-like suppression of the sexual. That part of him was shamed into submission by his father, a role Falwell himself took over from his Dad when he became a man. I think the voices which speak inside his head are negative, nay-saying and not granting of permission to the natural impulses. This must create great psychic tension and requires a disowning of the animal, sexual side of himself.
If Scorpio is the Ascendant, emphasis is certainly given to Pluto, already emphasized by being Point Focus in the T-Cross. He steps out into the world with an intense, passionate, instinctive, unrelenting drive. But as discussed above, the sexual side is strictly controlled. There is great conflict between the Plutonic, Scorpionic, Great Mother, instinctual, animal, sensual side of Falwell and the Saturnian, responsible, strict, controlling, patriarchal side of him. It's clear to see Saturn wins out from his superior positioning in the chart but I wonder about the psychic price he had to pay to allow one side of his conflict to gain absolute supremacy at the expense of conflicting drives.
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Mars opposed Uranus has incredibly strong powers of assertion and a powerful need to assert himself. He must have enjoyed locking horns with liberal apologists in a televised political discussion. It agrees with his nature to find "liberal forces" the cause of unrest and the source of America's failure. They are the enemy of his advocacy for a return to a more strict construction of values and a return to more traditional ways. In the Core opposition you can imagine what drives him and in the Rim opposition we see something of the vehicle used to get there.
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Forgive my piecemeal contribution Please read them all as one.
The complex in Virgo has mystical, expansive, religious, peace and harmony themes but does not seem well-integrated by aspect configuration with the rest of the chart. In many ways this complex has Christian overtones. Christ's message is love and forgiveness, Neptune rules the Piscean Age, and Jupiter is the new god who supplants Saturn the same way the New Testament follows, explains and in many ways supplants the Old Testament. Redemption replaces punishment. But without significant aspect to the rest of the chart these planets do not plug in well. Venus (love) and Jupiter (blessing) both in the 11th must have given him a great humanitarian urge and Neptune, the mystical Christ and the Hanged Man of Tarot, the redeemer and the sacrifice is represented. But they are all opposed to the Sign of the Fishes where they are each much more strongly placed. In earthy Virgo it's as if these planets have fallen to a practical, worldly realm and though this may bring much worldly blessings, it is not the highest calling for any of them. Mystical and Christian values take a back seat to patriarchal (Saturn) and assertive (Mars) psychic forces.  
- Emphasis in the 11th House which is not well integrated into the rest of the chart; - Uranus participating in the Rim opposition and opposed to his assertiveness and his sense of potency; and - Saturn, his Handle, in the sign of Uranus all bring forward the natural conflict and difficulty between the Promethean archetype of setting man free from bondage and darkness and the Saturn archetype of maintaining control. Great determination and the need to assert himself has been put in the service of a conservative agenda. He achieves the authority promised from the beginning by Sun-Saturn, by becoming the spokesperson for the moral majority and the religious right.
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« Reply #18 - on: 21.06.2007 at 13:30 [UT+1] »  
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Kent, thanks for your interesting, stimulating input.  
With this chart after all is said and done, all roads lead back to the need for control/order (Saturn as the handle of the bucket of the other planets' energies).  
And what was the cause of the chaos in the first place? I think the answer lies in the crucial T-square between Mars, Pluto, Moon/Uranus, i.e., the child's instinctual need for balance and harmony in the home was totally sacrificed (Mars in Libra in the 12th) to the radically different (Uranus in Aries) belief systems in the family (Cancer on the 9th), as he tried to reconcile his mother's stable, secure, orderly values (Moon in Taurus in the 6th) with his powerful business-man father's descent into the underworld of alcoholism and criminal behavior (Pluto in Cancer in the 9th).  
And later on when Jerry went all out to befriend and save his earlier arch rival, Larry Flynt, it seems he may have been unconsciously/symbolically trying to reconcile these opposites and become whole again, i.e., reclaim his lost dark father (Pluto in Cancer).
Also, at first it seemed a little ironic to me that this ultra-conservative's Saturn would be in free-wheeling Aquarius of all things, but in contemplating it more closely, Jerry was truly upholding his mother's against-the-grain, more subservient values (Moon conj. Uranus in the 6th) as opposed to the dark ethics and morality his more powerful, controlling father represented.
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Thanks Carol.
I also was surprised to see Saturn, the handle in a Bucket chart, in progressive and tolerant Aquarius. We've already discussed the Saturnian, return to old values being perhaps an unavoidable theme here. Forgetting for a moment that it's Saturn in the driver's seat, the emphasis on Aquarius with its New Age, technological indication shows up with Falwell being one of the pioneer air-wave evangelists. That was a key factor in distinguishing him from all the others.
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